The extra fee for the 360 is Gold subscription.

*Note* - The reason I say "extra fee" is because subscription based services on 360 (ex: Final Fantasy XI) are exempt from Gold charges because they have their own subscription fee. FFXI can be played online by silver members. I think the reason it is different here is because the Netflix CEO is on the MS board.

I am pretty sure that the new BD players coming out with the Netflix instant view support do not require an additional fee like the 360 does. I am fairly certain they only require your initial subscription plan, which is how I thought it was going to be.

I have also had Netflix for over 2 years now and I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt the whole Sony thing has little to no bearing on what is now available to you on instant view.

If you already have Gold for gaming and have Netflix however the whole concept is a slam dunk for you.

@munkehh111 & 1 vs. 100

I've been in two of the Canadian Beta's and its fun...

I'm waiting till the its officially released, then the game gets more interesting cause it will have prizes

When is it supposed to release? I want to win me some MS points because I am too cheap to buy them.

I think the rating was a bit stiff. Given that there were only a couple real misses. I think they were hard on the vagueness of some statements. Which probably was a bit frustrating for them.

Speaking to the availability of Netflix. That is not an issue with Microsoft. That is an issue with regards to local laws, infrastructure, and contracts. The large market that is the United States has decided advantages for their business model. It will take more time for such a service to work in Europe snaking through all the local laws, institutions, and building infrastructure. Out of curiosity does Europe have a unified postal service or one planned?

Speaking to the online service I think it is fair value. Your not going to get last years blockbuster on it, but it is fun to watch old series, and good movies from a few years ago. So if you fill your queue up well you should always have something good to watch.

Anyway I wouldn't chalk the Netflix issues up to Microsoft. The local laws, and the nature of the market are holding any progression back, and honestly you should want the mailing in with the online service. With the premiere service you can get six to nine discs a week. Real value if your a genre fan such as I am with Anime.

^and that's bad because (annoucing games to come later)? However, you're fanboy-dead wrong. If I remember correctly (I downloaded their E3 presentation from the PSN) they showcased their strong 2008 lineup titles: Little Big Planet, Resistance 2, Motorstorm Pacific Rift as well as new PSP bundles and PSN games. They introduced MAG and DC Universe Online, which indeed are still not out, but they never made it seem like these were 2008 titles, no dates were given, and it was pretty much the first time these games were massively revealed.

I never both playing those types of games, with 2 consoles I don't really want to waste my time

Saying that the XBL Gold is an additional fee was childish.....XBL Gold is Only $ 4.17 And it's used to cover Bandwidth....Don't try to make a point if your argument is Flawed....

Talk about a case of bad timing. On the eve of the big launch for the New Xbox Experience -- which, remember, marks "a new dawn in home entertainment" -- we've learned that Netflix streaming won't have quite as many films available as we had been hoping. Joystiq learned earlier this evening that a number of films -- including both Ghostbusters and Bad Boys -- are now unavailable to be streamed to the Xbox 360. The common link between the suddenly unavailable flicks is that they are all from Columbia Pictures, which is owned by Sony Pictures Entertainment. The films haven't disappeared from Netflix altogether; they are still available to be played on PCs and on TVs through other devices, making this seem like a petty move on Sony's part to try and take the wind out of Microsoft's sails.

I would say, based on the article that when Microsoft says something at E3 it can be trusted. Just make sure you listen closely so you know what are timed and true exclusives.

@Magnific0

I am not so sure Sony will have as good a go of it as Microsoft. Within the first ten minutes of their press conference some statements shine out that will probably get them the failing mark.

The year of the PS3, The biggest exclusives, A flood of new Content, a ton of great upgrades. Needless to say the hyperbole was rife. Given that the console fell flat in the second half of last year none of it really petered out. So Kotaku has a lot of ammunition. Even if they let half of the statements slide they are probably still going to hit south of Microsoft in their ratings.

Ok first off, relax. I said it is extra because I always knew that with XBox Live if a game, etc had it's own subscription you were exempt from needing to purchase Gold in order to enjoy it. When Netflix came it was the first time from what i've known that you had to pay for Gold along with an initial subscription cost in order to use something. 

So you see, it wasn't "childish". I was just going by what I was originally told. If I am told things work one way and then out of the blue something goes against what was originally said and works a different way I am sure as hell going to consider it an "extra fee". If a 360 MMO one day releases and requires you to pay for Gold + the game's subscription fee would I be "childish" for calling it a "fee" as well? No because I will remember how FFXI is free, just like I was originally told things like that would be.

As for the Sony thing you keep bringing up. How long have you had Netflix may I ask? If not 2 years then you're more flawed than me because I know what is there, what was there and what will continue to be there whether it be before the Sony issue or after the Sony issue.

Enjoy this too while you're at it.

http://kotaku.com/5099053/sony-movies-now-available-on-360s-netflix

Those Sony movies are on there. So what is the excuse now for the selection?

So now I ask you. Who's flawed here?