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pastro243 on 17 May 2009

I hope NFS would go back to what it was with Underground and Most wanted. But I hope this turns out to be good.



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ocnkng on 17 May 2009
selnor said:
Staude said:
selnor said:
Kantor said:
selnor said:
Leonidus said:
And Selnor :

Gran Turismo - 96
Gran Turismo 2 - 93
Gran Turismo 3-A spec - 95
Gran Turismo 4 -8 89 (basically 90)

Like I said in my post. last AAA GT game was GT3 a Spec. Problem is other racing games started to come out, and GT wasnt all that then. It's still a good series but it's last attempts are not at the forefront of the racing genre. With games like Forza, GTR 2, And we'll see how Shift does it's much harder for GT series to impress. And so far since Forza came along it's lost in Metacritics.

 

 

Lets not do this. All the bloody fanboys that stated Fable 2 was not AAA due to it not having 90 or above on Meta. Dont now tell me because it makes the mighty fanboys GT series look bad the most common knowledge thing on this site is now disregarded.

90+ Meta has always been viewed on this site as AAA FACT.

Fable 2 was drowned by PS3 owners because Meta it scored 89. FACT.

GT Series has been losing in quailty to Forza since Forza has been here. Meta says FACT.

 

 

Wasn't that just a counter to the ones who said that uncharted wasn't aaa because of it's score ?

 

Regardless game looks good. But your hate for gran turismo can't be justified.

I actually like GT. Just dont think it's the pinnacle as many do.

 

If you like GT then why bring it up? This thread could only have been about the mpressive screenshots of NFS:Shift. Instead you dragged in the GT series and started being negative about it.

You know that there is a huge following for GT series. When you be negative about GT needlessly, you just provoke their ire. And you cannot dismiss it using metacritic scores or anything like that.

Its just is. And a big reasoin could be how GTs are such wonderful games.

Think about it as Halo. If someone would be needlessly be negative about Halo wouldn't it just piss off so many people?

Its not about if the game is really good or bad in an absolute sense. Its just loved by millions.

BTW I think GT series is the best racer EVER!

 

 



 

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11ht11 on 17 May 2009

GT5 now has another competitor


game looks great!



Jo21 on 17 May 2009
RPG said:
You really have an issue with Gran Turismo don't you selnor? Unless Yamauchi ran over your dog you really need to give it a rest.

He doenst hav ea ps3 (yet i think) so he can't play it. and he likes it =P.

and no GT5P never goes down much and never to 720p

replays play a 30fps and game play at 60fps.

1080p not full maybe

http://www.gamersglobal.com/news/1336

here is an explanation.

How does Sony Liverpool achieve a constant 60fps at 1920x1080 with their great-looking racer on the Playstation 3 though? Instead of causing a slow down in the game itself, they let WipEout HD recognize, on a frame-by-frame basis, whether the rendering of a scene will involve performance loss. If that is the case, the game chooses to down-scale that frame's native resolution. At a constant game speed of 60 fps, the player will hardly notice the lightning-quick resolution-switching, though: from a maximum native resolution of 1920x1080 (picture 1) to, for example, 1550x1440 (picture 2) to a utmost minimum of 1280x1024 (picture 3), which is still much better than 720p (1280x720), the game always picks the best one depending on the current scene at hand with the target to always aim for the full 1080p. Sadly though, this can involve some minimal screen-tearing at times as can be seen in picture 3 above.

even like that http://www.gtplanet.net/video-performance-analysis-of-gt5-prologue/

it runs at a contant 60fps in game.



Skeeuk on 17 May 2009

i dunno why you hate GT so much, its getting old and boring now. mabey you arent a fan of playstation games. so just leave it at that.

shift is looking good but not GT5 good.



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MrMeToo on 17 May 2009
Kantor said:
selnor said:
Kantor said:
selnor said:
Kantor said:
selnor said:
Leonidus said:
And Selnor :

Gran Turismo - 96
Gran Turismo 2 - 93
Gran Turismo 3-A spec - 95
Gran Turismo 4 -8 89 (basically 90)

Like I said in my post. last AAA GT game was GT3 a Spec. Problem is other racing games started to come out, and GT wasnt all that then. It's still a good series but it's last attempts are not at the forefront of the racing genre. With games like Forza, GTR 2, And we'll see how Shift does it's much harder for GT series to impress. And so far since Forza came along it's lost in Metacritics.

 

Don't be absurd. A 90 is so much better than an 89 that it requires its own title?

When was the last AAA Need For Speed game, then? Let's see:

There's never been one. In fact, only a handful were over 80. Look at Undercover and ProStreet, both under 75.

 

Lets not do this. All the bloody fanboys that stated Fable 2 was not AAA due to it not having 90 or above on Meta. Dont now tell me because it makes the mighty fanboys GT series look bad the most common knowledge thing on this site is now disregarded.

90+ Meta has always been viewed on this site as AAA FACT.

Fable 2 was drowned by PS3 owners because Meta it scored 89. FACT.

GT Series has been losing in quailty to Forza since Forza has been here. Meta says FACT.

 

Just because some idiot PS3 fanboys don't think Fable II is AAA because it has an 89 doesn't give you the right to do the same. If we used that definition, MLB 09 would be AAA, and Uncharted would not. That is just ridiculous.

GT has the highest reviewed game of both series FACT

Only one full GT game has not been 90+, and that was 89 FACT

Gran Turismo is one of the best reviewed series of all time FACT

GT is longer running FACT

GT5 has been in development for twice the time Forza has FACT

3 million people bought a Prologue for GT5 FACT

Prologue is not a full game FACT

Ignoring reviews, GT4 is considered the best driving sim of last gen FACT

Both games will be 90+. But GT5 will review better, sell better, and be more popular.

EDIT: Metacritic is not fact. FACT.

It's doesnt look good when you have to twist it.

Fact reviewing wise GT is not of better qualilty than Forza series since Forza has been here.

Fact. Desperation shows when you have to say how GT is the best on old games. ( Of which had no competition and were the only available game of it's kind ).

I pointed this info out why? Becasue people carp on about GT being better than Forza etc etc. When in reality, on an average of opinions for people that have played both Forza is the better game. Metacritic is an average of opinions amongst reviewers. Argue if you will. But it is the ONLY way to acknowledge some form of order on the internet. Otherwise there is no point EVER discussing what a best game is. Every single thread would be pointless.

 

I'll admit that some GT elitists consider Forza beneath them. I will also say that 90% of them have never touched Forza.

Okay, you want to compare?

Forza 1 vs. Gran Turismo 4. 92 vs. 89. Winner: Forza. By three points

Forza 2 vs... hang on a moment. GT4 can't have two equivalents, so logically, Forza 2 should be compared to GT5, right? We can't make that comparison. Because GT5 will be compared to Forza 3. Unless you want to compare Forza 2 to GT5 Prologue, which is like comparing the Killzone 2 beta to Halo 3.

So as you can see, it's not as simple as just comparing.

 

A Question for Selnor.

How can you compare GT4 and Forza?  One was on last Gen consoles the Other was on New Gen.

In the process Forza was also a great game. Would you give the higher score to a game that took advantage of next gen tech to look good, play excellent and have more features or an excellent game that is GT4 that was not on next Gen hardware.

you are not speaking objectively further let me point out that you claim GT franchise reviews lower because of prologue and HD concept..... is that really an objective point of view? they are demos sony probably uses them to finanace the actuall game.

Im not gonna tell you which game is better because technically  speaking i can't do that untill both iterations of next gen titles come out.

but I will say this GT was the innovator of the genre it took it to levels unseen and still does and more that 10 million people regard it as the holy grail of racing sim.

the fact that its not on the 360 does not make it a fail just because there is another well made copy on the xbox 360.

ohh and metacritic isnt shit GTA4 a 9.8 really???



Dgc1808 on 17 May 2009
RAZurrection said:

 

WoW

 

That image in that left side mirror is pretty unimpressive...



4 ≈ One

tombi123 on 17 May 2009

This just shows you how good GT5:P is graphically, for it to be compared to a game that will come out two years after it did.



Million on 17 May 2009
Dgc1808 said:
RAZurrection said:

 

WoW

 

That image in that left side mirror is pretty unimpressive...

 

looks like paint lol.




Slimebeast on 17 May 2009

Taken from another thread to show that PC ain't much difference from PS360:
( http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=68860&page=2 )

 














Not a significant difference. Bump maps, HDR, textures, normal maps, parallax maps, shadows - everything is the same on PC and PS360, xcept for the little cut off in view distance on the PS360 version of Fallout 3. Generally the difference is only in a little AA/AF (and notice that these are hardware effects, not differences in the game versions ifself) and sometimes slightly compressed textures on PS360.

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Anyways, I fink GT5 will be better looking than NFS Shift. After all GT5 must have a huge dev budget, while EA are legendary for making generic mediocre games, and never the absolute best looking ones (xcept Crisis by Cri-Tek of course, I fink Crisis was published by EA).

The only game I hope can compete with GT5 is Forza 3, to some extent.