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Kantor on 17 May 2009
selnor said:
Kantor said:
selnor said:
Kantor said:
selnor said:
Leonidus said:
And Selnor :

Gran Turismo - 96
Gran Turismo 2 - 93
Gran Turismo 3-A spec - 95
Gran Turismo 4 -8 89 (basically 90)

Like I said in my post. last AAA GT game was GT3 a Spec. Problem is other racing games started to come out, and GT wasnt all that then. It's still a good series but it's last attempts are not at the forefront of the racing genre. With games like Forza, GTR 2, And we'll see how Shift does it's much harder for GT series to impress. And so far since Forza came along it's lost in Metacritics.

 

Don't be absurd. A 90 is so much better than an 89 that it requires its own title?

When was the last AAA Need For Speed game, then? Let's see:

There's never been one. In fact, only a handful were over 80. Look at Undercover and ProStreet, both under 75.

 

Lets not do this. All the bloody fanboys that stated Fable 2 was not AAA due to it not having 90 or above on Meta. Dont now tell me because it makes the mighty fanboys GT series look bad the most common knowledge thing on this site is now disregarded.

90+ Meta has always been viewed on this site as AAA FACT.

Fable 2 was drowned by PS3 owners because Meta it scored 89. FACT.

GT Series has been losing in quailty to Forza since Forza has been here. Meta says FACT.

 

Just because some idiot PS3 fanboys don't think Fable II is AAA because it has an 89 doesn't give you the right to do the same. If we used that definition, MLB 09 would be AAA, and Uncharted would not. That is just ridiculous.

GT has the highest reviewed game of both series FACT

Only one full GT game has not been 90+, and that was 89 FACT

Gran Turismo is one of the best reviewed series of all time FACT

GT is longer running FACT

GT5 has been in development for twice the time Forza has FACT

3 million people bought a Prologue for GT5 FACT

Prologue is not a full game FACT

Ignoring reviews, GT4 is considered the best driving sim of last gen FACT

Both games will be 90+. But GT5 will review better, sell better, and be more popular.

EDIT: Metacritic is not fact. FACT.

It's doesnt look good when you have to twist it.

Fact reviewing wise GT is not of better qualilty than Forza series since Forza has been here.

Fact. Desperation shows when you have to say how GT is the best on old games. ( Of which had no competition and were the only available game of it's kind ).

I pointed this info out why? Becasue people carp on about GT being better than Forza etc etc. When in reality, on an average of opinions for people that have played both Forza is the better game. Metacritic is an average of opinions amongst reviewers. Argue if you will. But it is the ONLY way to acknowledge some form of order on the internet. Otherwise there is no point EVER discussing what a best game is. Every single thread would be pointless.

 

I'll admit that some GT elitists consider Forza beneath them. I will also say that 90% of them have never touched Forza.

Okay, you want to compare?

Forza 1 vs. Gran Turismo 4. 92 vs. 89. Winner: Forza. By three points

Forza 2 vs... hang on a moment. GT4 can't have two equivalents, so logically, Forza 2 should be compared to GT5, right? We can't make that comparison. Because GT5 will be compared to Forza 3. Unless you want to compare Forza 2 to GT5 Prologue, which is like comparing the Killzone 2 beta to Halo 3.

So as you can see, it's not as simple as just comparing.



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headshot91 on 17 May 2009
selnor said:
headshot91 said:
selnor said:
Leonidus said:
selnor said:
Kantor said:
selnor said:
Leonidus said:
And Selnor :

Gran Turismo - 96
Gran Turismo 2 - 93
Gran Turismo 3-A spec - 95
Gran Turismo 4 -8 89 (basically 90)

Like I said in my post. last AAA GT game was GT3 a Spec. Problem is other racing games started to come out, and GT wasnt all that then. It's still a good series but it's last attempts are not at the forefront of the racing genre. With games like Forza, GTR 2, And we'll see how Shift does it's much harder for GT series to impress. And so far since Forza came along it's lost in Metacritics.

 

Don't be absurd. A 90 is so much better than an 89 that it requires its own title?

When was the last AAA Need For Speed game, then? Let's see:

There's never been one. In fact, only a handful were over 80. Look at Undercover and ProStreet, both under 75.

 

Lets not do this. All the bloody fanboys that stated Fable 2 was not AAA due to it not having 90 or above on Meta. Dont now tell me because it makes the mighty fanboys GT series look bad the most common knowledge thing on this site is now disregarded.

90+ Meta has always been viewed on this site as AAA FACT.

Fable 2 was drowned by PS3 owners because Meta it scored 89. FACT.

GT Series has been losing in quailty to Forza since Forza has been here. Meta says FACT.

 

And who from this thread ever said them things about Fable?

Also are those pics console or PC? If they are a PC you really are sad

 

 

 This they are PC pics nopt console pics thing is pathetic. why? Look on my friend.

PC image below.

360 image below.

As you can see. The not console screenshot crap needs to stop. They look identical. Resolution aside, they are basically identical.

No it can continue. So your saying that if you turned up all the detail to ultra high and lets say 1920 by 1200 in the pc version of shift and took screenshots of it (probably similiar to what the shift team did), it would look the same as the 360 or ps3 version? Nope thats wrong. Lets take any games that look better on the pc than 360- elder scrolls, cod4, cod waw, left4dead, gta4, burnout, i could go on, but it would make your comment look even more ridiculous.

 

Ive seen GTA4 and COD WAW on PC. Quad core, SLI tech and 4 gb of ram. Not much difference if I'm honest. In fact apart form higher resolution, detail was pretty much identical. And the odd slow down maybe on console. But apart from that the differences you people try and state are not there.

 

They are there, apart from the fact that on the pc this shift game could have taken a screenshot at native 1920 by 1200 compared with probably 1280 by 720 on ps360, the high end pc means everything looks clearer, smoother and sharper. I suspect these screenshots were taken using a pc version and touched up.

 



RPG on 17 May 2009

Quality wise I do not see this game being anything special, Forza 3 and GT5 will be the AAA titles. I must admit I care a lot about Metacritic and refuse to play any game under 80% but some people will say that is sad when in truth I am just better then them. ;)

Sales wise the is a NFS game so will sell in the millions no doubt but behind GT5 and probably Forza 3 as well. I expect Forza 3 to sell 3 million without being a pack in and GT5 8-10 million with out being a pack in.



 

Munkeh111 on 17 May 2009

Why have we got so off topic, can't we just say Need for Speed Shift looks nice, but we still have to see how good the gameplay will be



selnor on 17 May 2009
headshot91 said:
selnor said:
headshot91 said:
selnor said:
Leonidus said:
selnor said:
Kantor said:
selnor said:
Leonidus said:
And Selnor :

Gran Turismo - 96
Gran Turismo 2 - 93
Gran Turismo 3-A spec - 95
Gran Turismo 4 -8 89 (basically 90)

Like I said in my post. last AAA GT game was GT3 a Spec. Problem is other racing games started to come out, and GT wasnt all that then. It's still a good series but it's last attempts are not at the forefront of the racing genre. With games like Forza, GTR 2, And we'll see how Shift does it's much harder for GT series to impress. And so far since Forza came along it's lost in Metacritics.

 

Don't be absurd. A 90 is so much better than an 89 that it requires its own title?

When was the last AAA Need For Speed game, then? Let's see:

There's never been one. In fact, only a handful were over 80. Look at Undercover and ProStreet, both under 75.

 

Lets not do this. All the bloody fanboys that stated Fable 2 was not AAA due to it not having 90 or above on Meta. Dont now tell me because it makes the mighty fanboys GT series look bad the most common knowledge thing on this site is now disregarded.

90+ Meta has always been viewed on this site as AAA FACT.

Fable 2 was drowned by PS3 owners because Meta it scored 89. FACT.

GT Series has been losing in quailty to Forza since Forza has been here. Meta says FACT.

 

And who from this thread ever said them things about Fable?

Also are those pics console or PC? If they are a PC you really are sad

 

 

 This they are PC pics nopt console pics thing is pathetic. why? Look on my friend.

PC image below.

360 image below.

As you can see. The not console screenshot crap needs to stop. They look identical. Resolution aside, they are basically identical.

No it can continue. So your saying that if you turned up all the detail to ultra high and lets say 1920 by 1200 in the pc version of shift and took screenshots of it (probably similiar to what the shift team did), it would look the same as the 360 or ps3 version? Nope thats wrong. Lets take any games that look better on the pc than 360- elder scrolls, cod4, cod waw, left4dead, gta4, burnout, i could go on, but it would make your comment look even more ridiculous.

 

Ive seen GTA4 and COD WAW on PC. Quad core, SLI tech and 4 gb of ram. Not much difference if I'm honest. In fact apart form higher resolution, detail was pretty much identical. And the odd slow down maybe on console. But apart from that the differences you people try and state are not there.

 

They are there, apart from the fact that on the pc this shift game could have taken a screenshot at native 1920 by 1200 compared with probably 1280 by 720 on ps360, the high end pc means everything looks clearer, smoother and sharper. I suspect these screenshots were taken using a pc version and touched up.

 

Run COD WAW off PC connected to a HDTV 42" running a res of 1920x1080. PC flaws then are more apparant. Problem is people compare graphics of PC on a small 20" monitor with a console game running on a 42" and some cases 50" TV where the flaws can be seen more. PC is the pinnacle, but not by the sort of measures people like to believe.

 



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headshot91 on 17 May 2009
selnor said:
headshot91 said:
selnor said:
headshot91 said:
selnor said:
Leonidus said:
selnor said:
Kantor said:
selnor said:
Leonidus said:
And Selnor :

Gran Turismo - 96
Gran Turismo 2 - 93
Gran Turismo 3-A spec - 95
Gran Turismo 4 -8 89 (basically 90)

Like I said in my post. last AAA GT game was GT3 a Spec. Problem is other racing games started to come out, and GT wasnt all that then. It's still a good series but it's last attempts are not at the forefront of the racing genre. With games like Forza, GTR 2, And we'll see how Shift does it's much harder for GT series to impress. And so far since Forza came along it's lost in Metacritics.

 

Don't be absurd. A 90 is so much better than an 89 that it requires its own title?

When was the last AAA Need For Speed game, then? Let's see:

There's never been one. In fact, only a handful were over 80. Look at Undercover and ProStreet, both under 75.

 

Lets not do this. All the bloody fanboys that stated Fable 2 was not AAA due to it not having 90 or above on Meta. Dont now tell me because it makes the mighty fanboys GT series look bad the most common knowledge thing on this site is now disregarded.

90+ Meta has always been viewed on this site as AAA FACT.

Fable 2 was drowned by PS3 owners because Meta it scored 89. FACT.

GT Series has been losing in quailty to Forza since Forza has been here. Meta says FACT.

 

And who from this thread ever said them things about Fable?

Also are those pics console or PC? If they are a PC you really are sad

 

 

 This they are PC pics nopt console pics thing is pathetic. why? Look on my friend.

PC image below.

360 image below.

As you can see. The not console screenshot crap needs to stop. They look identical. Resolution aside, they are basically identical.

No it can continue. So your saying that if you turned up all the detail to ultra high and lets say 1920 by 1200 in the pc version of shift and took screenshots of it (probably similiar to what the shift team did), it would look the same as the 360 or ps3 version? Nope thats wrong. Lets take any games that look better on the pc than 360- elder scrolls, cod4, cod waw, left4dead, gta4, burnout, i could go on, but it would make your comment look even more ridiculous.

 

Ive seen GTA4 and COD WAW on PC. Quad core, SLI tech and 4 gb of ram. Not much difference if I'm honest. In fact apart form higher resolution, detail was pretty much identical. And the odd slow down maybe on console. But apart from that the differences you people try and state are not there.

 

They are there, apart from the fact that on the pc this shift game could have taken a screenshot at native 1920 by 1200 compared with probably 1280 by 720 on ps360, the high end pc means everything looks clearer, smoother and sharper. I suspect these screenshots were taken using a pc version and touched up.

 

Run COD WAW off PC connected to a HDTV 42" running a res of 1920x1080. PC flaws then are more apparant. Problem is people compare graphics of PC on a small 20" monitor with a console game running on a 42" and some cases 50" TV where the flaws can be seen more. PC is the pinnacle, but not by the sort of measures people like to believe.

 

Yes, but a pc is designed to run off of a monitor thats why it has higher resolution, the psp360 are designed to run off a tv screen because the pixel pitch of a tv is twice as large as a monitor, so they can get away with lower resolution. If you ran them both on say a 24 inch monitor at the higest res possible by all the machines, the pc would look the best. At least you admit the pc (when expensive) is the pinnacle of graphics atm.

 



Dallinor on 17 May 2009

It looks pretty good.

I'm not sure it beats GT5:Prologue for detail though. It's definitely got a more arcade look and probably feel to it.

6 of the screenshots seem to have a huge amount of 'blur' covering the background, concealing any bad AA or poor textures.

Are there any gameplay videos if it yet?



 

Munkeh111 on 17 May 2009

We have a teaser which features some gameplay I think, but there is certainly not very much



Staude on 17 May 2009
selnor said:
Kantor said:
selnor said:
Leonidus said:
And Selnor :

Gran Turismo - 96
Gran Turismo 2 - 93
Gran Turismo 3-A spec - 95
Gran Turismo 4 -8 89 (basically 90)

Like I said in my post. last AAA GT game was GT3 a Spec. Problem is other racing games started to come out, and GT wasnt all that then. It's still a good series but it's last attempts are not at the forefront of the racing genre. With games like Forza, GTR 2, And we'll see how Shift does it's much harder for GT series to impress. And so far since Forza came along it's lost in Metacritics.

 

Don't be absurd. A 90 is so much better than an 89 that it requires its own title?

When was the last AAA Need For Speed game, then? Let's see:

There's never been one. In fact, only a handful were over 80. Look at Undercover and ProStreet, both under 75.

 

Lets not do this. All the bloody fanboys that stated Fable 2 was not AAA due to it not having 90 or above on Meta. Dont now tell me because it makes the mighty fanboys GT series look bad the most common knowledge thing on this site is now disregarded.

90+ Meta has always been viewed on this site as AAA FACT.

Fable 2 was drowned by PS3 owners because Meta it scored 89. FACT.

GT Series has been losing in quailty to Forza since Forza has been here. Meta says FACT.

 

 

Wasn't that just a counter to the ones who said that uncharted wasn't aaa because of it's score ?

 

Regardless game looks good. But your hate for gran turismo can't be justified.



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selnor on 17 May 2009
Staude said:
selnor said:
Kantor said:
selnor said:
Leonidus said:
And Selnor :

Gran Turismo - 96
Gran Turismo 2 - 93
Gran Turismo 3-A spec - 95
Gran Turismo 4 -8 89 (basically 90)

Like I said in my post. last AAA GT game was GT3 a Spec. Problem is other racing games started to come out, and GT wasnt all that then. It's still a good series but it's last attempts are not at the forefront of the racing genre. With games like Forza, GTR 2, And we'll see how Shift does it's much harder for GT series to impress. And so far since Forza came along it's lost in Metacritics.

 

Don't be absurd. A 90 is so much better than an 89 that it requires its own title?

When was the last AAA Need For Speed game, then? Let's see:

There's never been one. In fact, only a handful were over 80. Look at Undercover and ProStreet, both under 75.

 

Lets not do this. All the bloody fanboys that stated Fable 2 was not AAA due to it not having 90 or above on Meta. Dont now tell me because it makes the mighty fanboys GT series look bad the most common knowledge thing on this site is now disregarded.

90+ Meta has always been viewed on this site as AAA FACT.

Fable 2 was drowned by PS3 owners because Meta it scored 89. FACT.

GT Series has been losing in quailty to Forza since Forza has been here. Meta says FACT.

 

 

Wasn't that just a counter to the ones who said that uncharted wasn't aaa because of it's score ?

 

Regardless game looks good. But your hate for gran turismo can't be justified.

I actually like GT. Just dont think it's the pinnacle as many do.