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^ And so many other games that look superior on the PC say hello.
You totally blank out so many games and pick a few that specifically agree with your point.

PC is capable of delivering better visuals, FACT



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I thought those PC images looked far far far better, unfortunately they would not look that good on my PC



selnor said:
Leonidus said:

And who from this thread ever said them things about Fable?

Also are those pics console or PC? If they are a PC you really are sad

 

 

 This they are PC pics nopt console pics thing is pathetic. why? Look on my friend.

PC image below.

360 image below.

As you can see. The not console screenshot crap needs to stop. They look identical. Resolution aside, they are basically identical.

Those are basically identical?

Are you kidding me? Look at the detail on the guy's face in the final picture.



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Kantor said:
selnor said:
Kantor said:
selnor said:
Leonidus said:
And Selnor :

Gran Turismo - 96
Gran Turismo 2 - 93
Gran Turismo 3-A spec - 95
Gran Turismo 4 -8 89 (basically 90)

Like I said in my post. last AAA GT game was GT3 a Spec. Problem is other racing games started to come out, and GT wasnt all that then. It's still a good series but it's last attempts are not at the forefront of the racing genre. With games like Forza, GTR 2, And we'll see how Shift does it's much harder for GT series to impress. And so far since Forza came along it's lost in Metacritics.

 

Don't be absurd. A 90 is so much better than an 89 that it requires its own title?

When was the last AAA Need For Speed game, then? Let's see:

There's never been one. In fact, only a handful were over 80. Look at Undercover and ProStreet, both under 75.

 

Lets not do this. All the bloody fanboys that stated Fable 2 was not AAA due to it not having 90 or above on Meta. Dont now tell me because it makes the mighty fanboys GT series look bad the most common knowledge thing on this site is now disregarded.

90+ Meta has always been viewed on this site as AAA FACT.

Fable 2 was drowned by PS3 owners because Meta it scored 89. FACT.

GT Series has been losing in quailty to Forza since Forza has been here. Meta says FACT.

 

Just because some idiot PS3 fanboys don't think Fable II is AAA because it has an 89 doesn't give you the right to do the same. If we used that definition, MLB 09 would be AAA, and Uncharted would not. That is just ridiculous.

GT has the highest reviewed game of both series FACT

Only one full GT game has not been 90+, and that was 89 FACT

Gran Turismo is one of the best reviewed series of all time FACT

GT is longer running FACT

GT5 has been in development for twice the time Forza has FACT

3 million people bought a Prologue for GT5 FACT

Prologue is not a full game FACT

Ignoring reviews, GT4 is considered the best driving sim of last gen FACT

Both games will be 90+. But GT5 will review better, sell better, and be more popular.

EDIT: Metacritic is not fact. FACT.

It's doesnt look good when you have to twist it.

Fact reviewing wise GT is not of better qualilty than Forza series since Forza has been here.

Fact. Desperation shows when you have to say how GT is the best on old games. ( Of which had no competition and were the only available game of it's kind ).

I pointed this info out why? Becasue people carp on about GT being better than Forza etc etc. When in reality, on an average of opinions for people that have played both Forza is the better game. Metacritic is an average of opinions amongst reviewers. Argue if you will. But it is the ONLY way to acknowledge some form of order on the internet. Otherwise there is no point EVER discussing what a best game is. Every single thread would be pointless.

 



selnor said:
Kantor said:
selnor said:
Kantor said:
selnor said:
Leonidus said:
And Selnor :

Gran Turismo - 96
Gran Turismo 2 - 93
Gran Turismo 3-A spec - 95
Gran Turismo 4 -8 89 (basically 90)

Like I said in my post. last AAA GT game was GT3 a Spec. Problem is other racing games started to come out, and GT wasnt all that then. It's still a good series but it's last attempts are not at the forefront of the racing genre. With games like Forza, GTR 2, And we'll see how Shift does it's much harder for GT series to impress. And so far since Forza came along it's lost in Metacritics.

 

Don't be absurd. A 90 is so much better than an 89 that it requires its own title?

When was the last AAA Need For Speed game, then? Let's see:

There's never been one. In fact, only a handful were over 80. Look at Undercover and ProStreet, both under 75.

 

Lets not do this. All the bloody fanboys that stated Fable 2 was not AAA due to it not having 90 or above on Meta. Dont now tell me because it makes the mighty fanboys GT series look bad the most common knowledge thing on this site is now disregarded.

90+ Meta has always been viewed on this site as AAA FACT.

Fable 2 was drowned by PS3 owners because Meta it scored 89. FACT.

GT Series has been losing in quailty to Forza since Forza has been here. Meta says FACT.

 

Just because some idiot PS3 fanboys don't think Fable II is AAA because it has an 89 doesn't give you the right to do the same. If we used that definition, MLB 09 would be AAA, and Uncharted would not. That is just ridiculous.

GT has the highest reviewed game of both series FACT

Only one full GT game has not been 90+, and that was 89 FACT

Gran Turismo is one of the best reviewed series of all time FACT

GT is longer running FACT

GT5 has been in development for twice the time Forza has FACT

3 million people bought a Prologue for GT5 FACT

Prologue is not a full game FACT

Ignoring reviews, GT4 is considered the best driving sim of last gen FACT

Both games will be 90+. But GT5 will review better, sell better, and be more popular.

EDIT: Metacritic is not fact. FACT.

It's doesnt look good when you have to twist it.

Fact reviewing wise GT is not of better qualilty than Forza series since Forza has been here.

Fact. Desperation shows when you have to say how GT is the best on old games. ( Of which had no competition and were the only available game of it's kind ).

I pointed this info out why? Becasue people carp on about GT being better than Forza etc etc. When in reality, on an average of opinions for people that have played both Forza is the better game. Metacritic is an average of opinions amongst reviewers. Argue if you will. But it is the ONLY way to acknowledge some form of order on the internet. Otherwise there is no point EVER discussing what a best game is. Every single thread would be pointless.

 

Bullshit.....utter Bullshit. 

 



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Leonidus said:
selnor said:
Kantor said:
selnor said:
Kantor said:
selnor said:
Leonidus said:
And Selnor :

Gran Turismo - 96
Gran Turismo 2 - 93
Gran Turismo 3-A spec - 95
Gran Turismo 4 -8 89 (basically 90)

Like I said in my post. last AAA GT game was GT3 a Spec. Problem is other racing games started to come out, and GT wasnt all that then. It's still a good series but it's last attempts are not at the forefront of the racing genre. With games like Forza, GTR 2, And we'll see how Shift does it's much harder for GT series to impress. And so far since Forza came along it's lost in Metacritics.

 

Don't be absurd. A 90 is so much better than an 89 that it requires its own title?

When was the last AAA Need For Speed game, then? Let's see:

There's never been one. In fact, only a handful were over 80. Look at Undercover and ProStreet, both under 75.

 

Lets not do this. All the bloody fanboys that stated Fable 2 was not AAA due to it not having 90 or above on Meta. Dont now tell me because it makes the mighty fanboys GT series look bad the most common knowledge thing on this site is now disregarded.

90+ Meta has always been viewed on this site as AAA FACT.

Fable 2 was drowned by PS3 owners because Meta it scored 89. FACT.

GT Series has been losing in quailty to Forza since Forza has been here. Meta says FACT.

 

Just because some idiot PS3 fanboys don't think Fable II is AAA because it has an 89 doesn't give you the right to do the same. If we used that definition, MLB 09 would be AAA, and Uncharted would not. That is just ridiculous.

GT has the highest reviewed game of both series FACT

Only one full GT game has not been 90+, and that was 89 FACT

Gran Turismo is one of the best reviewed series of all time FACT

GT is longer running FACT

GT5 has been in development for twice the time Forza has FACT

3 million people bought a Prologue for GT5 FACT

Prologue is not a full game FACT

Ignoring reviews, GT4 is considered the best driving sim of last gen FACT

Both games will be 90+. But GT5 will review better, sell better, and be more popular.

EDIT: Metacritic is not fact. FACT.

It's doesnt look good when you have to twist it.

Fact reviewing wise GT is not of better qualilty than Forza series since Forza has been here.

Fact. Desperation shows when you have to say how GT is the best on old games. ( Of which had no competition and were the only available game of it's kind ).

I pointed this info out why? Becasue people carp on about GT being better than Forza etc etc. When in reality, on an average of opinions for people that have played both Forza is the better game. Metacritic is an average of opinions amongst reviewers. Argue if you will. But it is the ONLY way to acknowledge some form of order on the internet. Otherwise there is no point EVER discussing what a best game is. Every single thread would be pointless.

 

Bullshit.....utter Bullshit. 

 

So you argue with

Forza 1 (2005) = 92 based over 73 Reviews.

GT4 (2005) = 89 based over 74 reviews.

I believe that 70+ reviews is a good average of opinions. Dont you? I can understand if your opinion differs. But to those that have extensively played both Forza wins out.

 



selnor said:
Leonidus said:
selnor said:
Kantor said:
selnor said:
Leonidus said:
And Selnor :

Gran Turismo - 96
Gran Turismo 2 - 93
Gran Turismo 3-A spec - 95
Gran Turismo 4 -8 89 (basically 90)

Like I said in my post. last AAA GT game was GT3 a Spec. Problem is other racing games started to come out, and GT wasnt all that then. It's still a good series but it's last attempts are not at the forefront of the racing genre. With games like Forza, GTR 2, And we'll see how Shift does it's much harder for GT series to impress. And so far since Forza came along it's lost in Metacritics.

 

Don't be absurd. A 90 is so much better than an 89 that it requires its own title?

When was the last AAA Need For Speed game, then? Let's see:

There's never been one. In fact, only a handful were over 80. Look at Undercover and ProStreet, both under 75.

 

Lets not do this. All the bloody fanboys that stated Fable 2 was not AAA due to it not having 90 or above on Meta. Dont now tell me because it makes the mighty fanboys GT series look bad the most common knowledge thing on this site is now disregarded.

90+ Meta has always been viewed on this site as AAA FACT.

Fable 2 was drowned by PS3 owners because Meta it scored 89. FACT.

GT Series has been losing in quailty to Forza since Forza has been here. Meta says FACT.

 

And who from this thread ever said them things about Fable?

Also are those pics console or PC? If they are a PC you really are sad

 

 

 This they are PC pics nopt console pics thing is pathetic. why? Look on my friend.

PC image below.

360 image below.

As you can see. The not console screenshot crap needs to stop. They look identical. Resolution aside, they are basically identical.

No it can continue. So your saying that if you turned up all the detail to ultra high and lets say 1920 by 1200 in the pc version of shift and took screenshots of it (probably similiar to what the shift team did), it would look the same as the 360 or ps3 version? Nope thats wrong. Lets take any games that look better on the pc than 360- elder scrolls, cod4, cod waw, left4dead, gta4, burnout, i could go on, but it would make your comment look even more ridiculous.

 



selnor said:
Leonidus said:
selnor said:
Kantor said:
selnor said:
Kantor said:
selnor said:
Leonidus said:
And Selnor :

Gran Turismo - 96
Gran Turismo 2 - 93
Gran Turismo 3-A spec - 95
Gran Turismo 4 -8 89 (basically 90)

Like I said in my post. last AAA GT game was GT3 a Spec. Problem is other racing games started to come out, and GT wasnt all that then. It's still a good series but it's last attempts are not at the forefront of the racing genre. With games like Forza, GTR 2, And we'll see how Shift does it's much harder for GT series to impress. And so far since Forza came along it's lost in Metacritics.

 

Don't be absurd. A 90 is so much better than an 89 that it requires its own title?

When was the last AAA Need For Speed game, then? Let's see:

There's never been one. In fact, only a handful were over 80. Look at Undercover and ProStreet, both under 75.

 

Lets not do this. All the bloody fanboys that stated Fable 2 was not AAA due to it not having 90 or above on Meta. Dont now tell me because it makes the mighty fanboys GT series look bad the most common knowledge thing on this site is now disregarded.

90+ Meta has always been viewed on this site as AAA FACT.

Fable 2 was drowned by PS3 owners because Meta it scored 89. FACT.

GT Series has been losing in quailty to Forza since Forza has been here. Meta says FACT.

 

Just because some idiot PS3 fanboys don't think Fable II is AAA because it has an 89 doesn't give you the right to do the same. If we used that definition, MLB 09 would be AAA, and Uncharted would not. That is just ridiculous.

GT has the highest reviewed game of both series FACT

Only one full GT game has not been 90+, and that was 89 FACT

Gran Turismo is one of the best reviewed series of all time FACT

GT is longer running FACT

GT5 has been in development for twice the time Forza has FACT

3 million people bought a Prologue for GT5 FACT

Prologue is not a full game FACT

Ignoring reviews, GT4 is considered the best driving sim of last gen FACT

Both games will be 90+. But GT5 will review better, sell better, and be more popular.

EDIT: Metacritic is not fact. FACT.

It's doesnt look good when you have to twist it.

Fact reviewing wise GT is not of better qualilty than Forza series since Forza has been here.

Fact. Desperation shows when you have to say how GT is the best on old games. ( Of which had no competition and were the only available game of it's kind ).

I pointed this info out why? Becasue people carp on about GT being better than Forza etc etc. When in reality, on an average of opinions for people that have played both Forza is the better game. Metacritic is an average of opinions amongst reviewers. Argue if you will. But it is the ONLY way to acknowledge some form of order on the internet. Otherwise there is no point EVER discussing what a best game is. Every single thread would be pointless.

 

Bullshit.....utter Bullshit. 

 

So you argue with

Forza 1 (2005) = 92 based over 73 Reviews.

GT4 (2005) = 89 based over 74 reviews.

I believe that 70+ reviews is a good average of opinions. Dont you? I can understand if your opinion differs. But to those that have extensively played both Forza wins out.

 

You never mentioned reviewers, if you ask the General Gaming Public........most will agree that GT is better. 

Also, why are you only selecting those two games? Anyone who has played a few GT games, and a few Forza ones dosent deem forza to be superior, infact its probably the opposite.

 



headshot91 said:
selnor said:
Leonidus said:
selnor said:
Kantor said:
selnor said:
Leonidus said:
And Selnor :

Gran Turismo - 96
Gran Turismo 2 - 93
Gran Turismo 3-A spec - 95
Gran Turismo 4 -8 89 (basically 90)

Like I said in my post. last AAA GT game was GT3 a Spec. Problem is other racing games started to come out, and GT wasnt all that then. It's still a good series but it's last attempts are not at the forefront of the racing genre. With games like Forza, GTR 2, And we'll see how Shift does it's much harder for GT series to impress. And so far since Forza came along it's lost in Metacritics.

 

Don't be absurd. A 90 is so much better than an 89 that it requires its own title?

When was the last AAA Need For Speed game, then? Let's see:

There's never been one. In fact, only a handful were over 80. Look at Undercover and ProStreet, both under 75.

 

Lets not do this. All the bloody fanboys that stated Fable 2 was not AAA due to it not having 90 or above on Meta. Dont now tell me because it makes the mighty fanboys GT series look bad the most common knowledge thing on this site is now disregarded.

90+ Meta has always been viewed on this site as AAA FACT.

Fable 2 was drowned by PS3 owners because Meta it scored 89. FACT.

GT Series has been losing in quailty to Forza since Forza has been here. Meta says FACT.

 

And who from this thread ever said them things about Fable?

Also are those pics console or PC? If they are a PC you really are sad

 

 

 This they are PC pics nopt console pics thing is pathetic. why? Look on my friend.

PC image below.

360 image below.

As you can see. The not console screenshot crap needs to stop. They look identical. Resolution aside, they are basically identical.

No it can continue. So your saying that if you turned up all the detail to ultra high and lets say 1920 by 1200 in the pc version of shift and took screenshots of it (probably similiar to what the shift team did), it would look the same as the 360 or ps3 version? Nope thats wrong. Lets take any games that look better on the pc than 360- elder scrolls, cod4, cod waw, left4dead, gta4, burnout, i could go on, but it would make your comment look even more ridiculous.

 

Ive seen GTA4 and COD WAW on PC. Quad core, SLI tech and 4 gb of ram. Not much difference if I'm honest. In fact apart form higher resolution, detail was pretty much identical. And the odd slow down maybe on console. But apart from that the differences you people try and state are not there.

 



Leonidus said:
selnor said:
Leonidus said:
selnor said:
Kantor said:
selnor said:
Kantor said:
selnor said:
Leonidus said:
And Selnor :

Gran Turismo - 96
Gran Turismo 2 - 93
Gran Turismo 3-A spec - 95
Gran Turismo 4 -8 89 (basically 90)

Like I said in my post. last AAA GT game was GT3 a Spec. Problem is other racing games started to come out, and GT wasnt all that then. It's still a good series but it's last attempts are not at the forefront of the racing genre. With games like Forza, GTR 2, And we'll see how Shift does it's much harder for GT series to impress. And so far since Forza came along it's lost in Metacritics.

 

Don't be absurd. A 90 is so much better than an 89 that it requires its own title?

When was the last AAA Need For Speed game, then? Let's see:

There's never been one. In fact, only a handful were over 80. Look at Undercover and ProStreet, both under 75.

 

Lets not do this. All the bloody fanboys that stated Fable 2 was not AAA due to it not having 90 or above on Meta. Dont now tell me because it makes the mighty fanboys GT series look bad the most common knowledge thing on this site is now disregarded.

90+ Meta has always been viewed on this site as AAA FACT.

Fable 2 was drowned by PS3 owners because Meta it scored 89. FACT.

GT Series has been losing in quailty to Forza since Forza has been here. Meta says FACT.

 

Just because some idiot PS3 fanboys don't think Fable II is AAA because it has an 89 doesn't give you the right to do the same. If we used that definition, MLB 09 would be AAA, and Uncharted would not. That is just ridiculous.

GT has the highest reviewed game of both series FACT

Only one full GT game has not been 90+, and that was 89 FACT

Gran Turismo is one of the best reviewed series of all time FACT

GT is longer running FACT

GT5 has been in development for twice the time Forza has FACT

3 million people bought a Prologue for GT5 FACT

Prologue is not a full game FACT

Ignoring reviews, GT4 is considered the best driving sim of last gen FACT

Both games will be 90+. But GT5 will review better, sell better, and be more popular.

EDIT: Metacritic is not fact. FACT.

It's doesnt look good when you have to twist it.

Fact reviewing wise GT is not of better qualilty than Forza series since Forza has been here.

Fact. Desperation shows when you have to say how GT is the best on old games. ( Of which had no competition and were the only available game of it's kind ).

I pointed this info out why? Becasue people carp on about GT being better than Forza etc etc. When in reality, on an average of opinions for people that have played both Forza is the better game. Metacritic is an average of opinions amongst reviewers. Argue if you will. But it is the ONLY way to acknowledge some form of order on the internet. Otherwise there is no point EVER discussing what a best game is. Every single thread would be pointless.

 

Bullshit.....utter Bullshit. 

 

So you argue with

Forza 1 (2005) = 92 based over 73 Reviews.

GT4 (2005) = 89 based over 74 reviews.

I believe that 70+ reviews is a good average of opinions. Dont you? I can understand if your opinion differs. But to those that have extensively played both Forza wins out.

 

You never mentioned reviewers, if you ask the General Gaming Public........most will agree that GT is better. 

Also, why are you only selecting those two games? Anyone who has played a few GT games, and a few Forza ones dosent deem forza to be superior, infact its probably the opposite.

 

You cant look at it like that.

1. GT has sold more games. So more people will say GT is better when they havent played Forza at all.

2. You cannot compare GT1-3 to a game that out and competing with 4. GT1-3 had NO competition. So it was reviewed as such.

3. If you made sure to only ask the public who have finished both GT4 and Forza 1, I think you'll find it will end up the same as the reviewers average. I for 1 own GT1-4, and clearly believe Forza to be a more realsitic racing sim than GT4. Forza 2 has no direct competiton other than GT5P which it beats. Forza 3 and GT5 will be the test for this gen.

4. I've never seen someone defend a series which falls in reviews.

I love Ninja Blade. But there is no way on an average of opinions that my point of the game could be viewed as right.