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Munkeh111 on 17 May 2009
selnor said:
Leonidus said:
And Selnor :

Gran Turismo - 96
Gran Turismo 2 - 93
Gran Turismo 3-A spec - 95
Gran Turismo 4 -8 89 (basically 90)

Like I said in my post. last AAA GT game was GT3 a Spec. Problem is other racing games started to come out, and GT wasnt all that then. It's still a good series but it's last attempts are not at the forefront of the racing genre. With games like Forza, GTR 2, And we'll see how Shift does it's much harder for GT series to impress. And so far since Forza came along it's lost in Metacritics.

What really matters is that GT is a much much bigger seller than Forza. We can't really compare sales of the latest 2, GT 5 Prologue and Forza 2 as they were both bundled massively. Forza 2 sold just over 1m before its sales increased massively, most likely due to bundling, but it could have reached 1.5m anyway (though very unlikely), it was only selling 20k a week when bundling happened. On the other hand GT 5 Prologue sold just under 1m in its first 2 weeks, and has sold over 3m. It is quite difficult to tell when it was bundled from the sales graphs, as it had a staggered launch. I am sure there are some errors in this, but it is pretty clear that Gran Turismo is far bigger, especially when you think that all of the proper GT games have sold over 9m



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selnor on 17 May 2009
Munkeh111 said:
selnor said:
Leonidus said:
And Selnor :

Gran Turismo - 96
Gran Turismo 2 - 93
Gran Turismo 3-A spec - 95
Gran Turismo 4 -8 89 (basically 90)

Like I said in my post. last AAA GT game was GT3 a Spec. Problem is other racing games started to come out, and GT wasnt all that then. It's still a good series but it's last attempts are not at the forefront of the racing genre. With games like Forza, GTR 2, And we'll see how Shift does it's much harder for GT series to impress. And so far since Forza came along it's lost in Metacritics.

What really matters is that GT is a much much bigger seller than Forza. We can't really compare sales of the latest 2, GT 5 Prologue and Forza 2 as they were both bundled massively. Forza 2 sold just over 1m before its sales increased massively, most likely due to bundling, but it could have reached 1.5m anyway (though very unlikely), it was only selling 20k a week when bundling happened. On the other hand GT 5 Prologue sold just under 1m in its first 2 weeks, and has sold over 3m. It is quite difficult to tell when it was bundled from the sales graphs, as it had a staggered launch. I am sure there are some errors in this, but it is pretty clear that Gran Turismo is far bigger, especially when you think that all of the proper GT games have sold over 9m

I agree, GT series is a monster seller. But I was talking game quality. It isnt the forefront currently. Also GT5 will not get near 9 mill sales LT. Dont see it. Release to late, And PS3 is not on gamers lips like Sony thought it would be. I think Forza 3 will score 93-94 Meta. I think GT5 may score between 88-91 based on recent trends.

 



Munkeh111 on 17 May 2009

2 meta points are completely irrelevant



Kantor on 17 May 2009
selnor said:
Leonidus said:
And Selnor :

Gran Turismo - 96
Gran Turismo 2 - 93
Gran Turismo 3-A spec - 95
Gran Turismo 4 -8 89 (basically 90)

Like I said in my post. last AAA GT game was GT3 a Spec. Problem is other racing games started to come out, and GT wasnt all that then. It's still a good series but it's last attempts are not at the forefront of the racing genre. With games like Forza, GTR 2, And we'll see how Shift does it's much harder for GT series to impress. And so far since Forza came along it's lost in Metacritics.

 

Don't be absurd. A 90 is so much better than an 89 that it requires its own title?

When was the last AAA Need For Speed game, then? Let's see:

There's never been one. In fact, only a handful were over 80. Look at Undercover and ProStreet, both under 75.



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Kantor on 17 May 2009
selnor said:
Munkeh111 said:
selnor said:
Leonidus said:
And Selnor :

Gran Turismo - 96
Gran Turismo 2 - 93
Gran Turismo 3-A spec - 95
Gran Turismo 4 -8 89 (basically 90)

Like I said in my post. last AAA GT game was GT3 a Spec. Problem is other racing games started to come out, and GT wasnt all that then. It's still a good series but it's last attempts are not at the forefront of the racing genre. With games like Forza, GTR 2, And we'll see how Shift does it's much harder for GT series to impress. And so far since Forza came along it's lost in Metacritics.

What really matters is that GT is a much much bigger seller than Forza. We can't really compare sales of the latest 2, GT 5 Prologue and Forza 2 as they were both bundled massively. Forza 2 sold just over 1m before its sales increased massively, most likely due to bundling, but it could have reached 1.5m anyway (though very unlikely), it was only selling 20k a week when bundling happened. On the other hand GT 5 Prologue sold just under 1m in its first 2 weeks, and has sold over 3m. It is quite difficult to tell when it was bundled from the sales graphs, as it had a staggered launch. I am sure there are some errors in this, but it is pretty clear that Gran Turismo is far bigger, especially when you think that all of the proper GT games have sold over 9m

I agree, GT series is a monster seller. But I was talking game quality. It isnt the forefront currently. Also GT5 will not get near 9 mill sales LT. Dont see it. Release to late, And PS3 is not on gamers lips like Sony thought it would be. I think Forza 3 will score 93-94 Meta. I think GT5 may score between 88-91 based on recent trends.

 

1080p, 60fps, damage, weather change, day and night, 600 cars and 90 tracks, "Gran Turismo" in the title, the first full game on PS3, and you think it will get below 90?



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selnor on 17 May 2009
Kantor said:
selnor said:
Leonidus said:
And Selnor :

Gran Turismo - 96
Gran Turismo 2 - 93
Gran Turismo 3-A spec - 95
Gran Turismo 4 -8 89 (basically 90)

Like I said in my post. last AAA GT game was GT3 a Spec. Problem is other racing games started to come out, and GT wasnt all that then. It's still a good series but it's last attempts are not at the forefront of the racing genre. With games like Forza, GTR 2, And we'll see how Shift does it's much harder for GT series to impress. And so far since Forza came along it's lost in Metacritics.

 

Don't be absurd. A 90 is so much better than an 89 that it requires its own title?

When was the last AAA Need For Speed game, then? Let's see:

There's never been one. In fact, only a handful were over 80. Look at Undercover and ProStreet, both under 75.

 

Lets not do this. All the bloody fanboys that stated Fable 2 was not AAA due to it not having 90 or above on Meta. Dont now tell me because it makes the mighty fanboys GT series look bad the most common knowledge thing on this site is now disregarded.

90+ Meta has always been viewed on this site as AAA FACT.

Fable 2 was drowned by PS3 owners because Meta it scored 89. FACT.

GT Series has been losing in quailty to Forza since Forza has been here. Meta says FACT.

 



Leonidus on 17 May 2009
selnor said:
Kantor said:
selnor said:
Leonidus said:
And Selnor :

Gran Turismo - 96
Gran Turismo 2 - 93
Gran Turismo 3-A spec - 95
Gran Turismo 4 -8 89 (basically 90)

Like I said in my post. last AAA GT game was GT3 a Spec. Problem is other racing games started to come out, and GT wasnt all that then. It's still a good series but it's last attempts are not at the forefront of the racing genre. With games like Forza, GTR 2, And we'll see how Shift does it's much harder for GT series to impress. And so far since Forza came along it's lost in Metacritics.

 

Don't be absurd. A 90 is so much better than an 89 that it requires its own title?

When was the last AAA Need For Speed game, then? Let's see:

There's never been one. In fact, only a handful were over 80. Look at Undercover and ProStreet, both under 75.

 

Lets not do this. All the bloody fanboys that stated Fable 2 was not AAA due to it not having 90 or above on Meta. Dont now tell me because it makes the mighty fanboys GT series look bad the most common knowledge thing on this site is now disregarded.

90+ Meta has always been viewed on this site as AAA FACT.

Fable 2 was drowned by PS3 owners because Meta it scored 89. FACT.

GT Series has been losing in quailty to Forza since Forza has been here. Meta says FACT.

 

And who from this thread ever said them things about Fable?

Also are those pics console or PC? If they are a PC you really are sad

 



Lafiel on 17 May 2009
selnor said:

90+ Meta has always been viewed on this site as AAA FACT.

Fable 2 was drowned by PS3 owners because Meta it scored 89. FACT.

90+ = "AAA" (= the only games worth playing) is a definition made by people of the same fanaticism level as you

and those that attacked Fable 2 are people of the same fanaticism level as you aswell, which might be the reason why you now attack GT



Kantor on 17 May 2009
selnor said:
Kantor said:
selnor said:
Leonidus said:
And Selnor :

Gran Turismo - 96
Gran Turismo 2 - 93
Gran Turismo 3-A spec - 95
Gran Turismo 4 -8 89 (basically 90)

Like I said in my post. last AAA GT game was GT3 a Spec. Problem is other racing games started to come out, and GT wasnt all that then. It's still a good series but it's last attempts are not at the forefront of the racing genre. With games like Forza, GTR 2, And we'll see how Shift does it's much harder for GT series to impress. And so far since Forza came along it's lost in Metacritics.

 

Don't be absurd. A 90 is so much better than an 89 that it requires its own title?

When was the last AAA Need For Speed game, then? Let's see:

There's never been one. In fact, only a handful were over 80. Look at Undercover and ProStreet, both under 75.

 

Lets not do this. All the bloody fanboys that stated Fable 2 was not AAA due to it not having 90 or above on Meta. Dont now tell me because it makes the mighty fanboys GT series look bad the most common knowledge thing on this site is now disregarded.

90+ Meta has always been viewed on this site as AAA FACT.

Fable 2 was drowned by PS3 owners because Meta it scored 89. FACT.

GT Series has been losing in quailty to Forza since Forza has been here. Meta says FACT.

 

Just because some idiot PS3 fanboys don't think Fable II is AAA because it has an 89 doesn't give you the right to do the same. If we used that definition, MLB 09 would be AAA, and Uncharted would not. That is just ridiculous.

GT has the highest reviewed game of both series FACT

Only one full GT game has not been 90+, and that was 89 FACT

Gran Turismo is one of the best reviewed series of all time FACT

GT is longer running FACT

GT5 has been in development for twice the time Forza has FACT

3 million people bought a Prologue for GT5 FACT

Prologue is not a full game FACT

Ignoring reviews, GT4 is considered the best driving sim of last gen FACT

Both games will be 90+. But GT5 will review better, sell better, and be more popular.

EDIT: Metacritic is not fact. FACT.



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selnor on 17 May 2009
Leonidus said:
selnor said:
Kantor said:
selnor said:
Leonidus said:
And Selnor :

Gran Turismo - 96
Gran Turismo 2 - 93
Gran Turismo 3-A spec - 95
Gran Turismo 4 -8 89 (basically 90)

Like I said in my post. last AAA GT game was GT3 a Spec. Problem is other racing games started to come out, and GT wasnt all that then. It's still a good series but it's last attempts are not at the forefront of the racing genre. With games like Forza, GTR 2, And we'll see how Shift does it's much harder for GT series to impress. And so far since Forza came along it's lost in Metacritics.

 

Don't be absurd. A 90 is so much better than an 89 that it requires its own title?

When was the last AAA Need For Speed game, then? Let's see:

There's never been one. In fact, only a handful were over 80. Look at Undercover and ProStreet, both under 75.

 

Lets not do this. All the bloody fanboys that stated Fable 2 was not AAA due to it not having 90 or above on Meta. Dont now tell me because it makes the mighty fanboys GT series look bad the most common knowledge thing on this site is now disregarded.

90+ Meta has always been viewed on this site as AAA FACT.

Fable 2 was drowned by PS3 owners because Meta it scored 89. FACT.

GT Series has been losing in quailty to Forza since Forza has been here. Meta says FACT.

 

And who from this thread ever said them things about Fable?

Also are those pics console or PC? If they are a PC you really are sad

 

 

 This they are PC pics not console pics thing is pathetic. why? Look on my friend.

As you can see. The not console screenshot crap needs to stop. They look identical. Resolution aside, they are basically identical.