Avinash_Tyagi said:
disolitude said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
disolitude said:
Mr Khan said:
He is right, in both of his articles, though he points it out in a way such as is a bit more caustic than is prudent (pot-shots at Sony and Microsoft, etc.)
Nintendo has always been doomed, though for different (and sometimes legitimate) reasons
-The NES was doomed because gaming's future was with the computer -The Super NES was doomed because they didn't embrace the aging audience like the Genesis did. -The N64 was doomed because of cartridges (true enough), and also because they didn't embrace the aging audience -The GameCube was doomed because it had no 3rd party support (kinda), kiddy games, no DVD, and no online -The Wii is doomed because its an underpowered fad focusing on a fickle audience
The two articles sort of tie together (and tie with a recurring theme of his) that the game industry is removing itself from popular opinion. The industry itself knows what is best for it, and not the consumers. Thus a strong feeling of consensus emerges within the industry, norms that everyone know of come to govern thinking. Nintendo goes against these ideas, and become a pariah. The industry becomes more elitist and arrogant as time passes.
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Gamecube was doomed. 5 bucks says that thing lost money. The GBA was selling 10s of millions of consoles per year and tonnes of software and nintendo was having 200 million profits per year.
Nintendo obviously didn't go under becuase of it, but calling something "doomed" is saying its going to fail. And nintendo did have failures in the past.
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You argue that Nintendo has had failures in the past, and yet throughout all that time in the video game industry, they have reamined profitable, with the exception of one quarter and been dominant in three generations of home console and every generation of handheld consoles, so tell me how that translates into a company being doomed or in any way in decline?
You're ignoring the pertinent points of this issue, in spite of what you may think, nintendo software sells more, its hardwares is selling more and its profits are higher than its competitors (in terms of gaming), so the fact is clear nintendo is in no way doomed, so there must be some disconnect in the media and industry that leads them to argue that it is.
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I wouldn't call them dominant in 3 generations. I mean NES sure...SNES not so much. Snes and Genesis pretty close in marketshare for a long time, with Sega getting a lot more profits than ninty in 1993 and 1994.
Wii is Nintendos return to dominating. Everyone keeps pretending like ninty could do no wrong...while they really have not been a dominant sales force since early 90s when it comes to home consoles. Untill the Wii...
In any case the word doomed is an exageration. No one is saying ninty is doomed but some of their consoles like N64, Gamecube were shortchanged due to bad decisions. This is the doom media writes about... Doesn't mean everyone at nintendo is burning in hell...
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Actually yeah people are all trying to say that the Wii is in decline or that Sony is going to catch up or other garbage, and yeah Nitnendo was dominant with the SNES, about 17 million more consoles than the genesis. And even in the 90's and early 2000's they dominated the handheld market. Clearly the media and the HD fanboys are living in some la-la land if they don't realize that nintendo is driving the industry forward.
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I know its a different argument but this whole Genesis and Snes thing. Genesis was discontinued in early 1996. Also Saturn came out in 1995 worldwide. Snes had a whole year to itself to "dominate" since n64 wasnt available until a year and change later. Snes did sell 10 million units more by the time Genesis became "last gen" in 1995, all of which were in Japan but US was tied and Eu was skewing towards genesis. That is not domination...
PS3 may catch up to 360 in 2013...and then ps3 fans will scream "domination" too? I don't think so...
In any case, I know that nintendo has a lot of fans and that arguing anything against them is pointless, but the only market nintendo is driving is their own marketshare. the 3000+ nintendo employees are doing amazing right now. However the rest of the industry is not seeing any benefits from what nintendo is doing right now. Other than shovelware publishers that is...
Everyone expected Sega to have a great year this year. Multiple wii exclusives, low development cost, AAA games...well lets look at segas financial sheet a year from now and see if Wii is indeed helping the industry and moving it forward. Who knows, maybe mario and sonic winter games helps...