Ratchet isn't a shooter
and why do these threads keep gettin made?
I think everyone has already heard it let people stick to their opinions and stop posting pointless threads over and over

Sadly, I don't think you're even going to get an honest attempt at a rebuttal. You've been ignored thusfar by any who would say otherwise.

Frankly I don't blame them. Surely they must realize after reading your first post that counting titles without weighting their sales is absurd. Well meaning, no doubt, but it's still dishonest, however unitentional it may have been.

uh... did I say the data is wrong? I thought the thread is about how 360 is not a shooter box comparing to PS3.

The data you offered proves that Xbox 360 users play a lot of FPS online. However, it doesn't show that PS3 users do not play a lot of FPS online.

By the same way you present the data, one can find one sided information to conclude that PS3 is also a shooterbox. So we can conclude that both 360 and PS3 are shooterbox. What would be the point in that?

This.

Allow me to educate members about the raw facts. There is no cherry picking here unless you want to argue this sites facts and figures. This is all of the most general relevant data. There is no opinion involved, and if you want to express some outrage take it up with the staff of this site. Call them cherry pickers and fools. These are the numbers according to this site.

Xbox 360 228 million copies of software sold at retail. Attach rate 7.5 titles.
PS3 130 million copies of software sold at retail . Attach rate 6 titles.

Xbox 360 title count 621. FPS 61, 10%. Shooter 48, 8%. Total 17.5%
PS3 title count 474. FPS 44, 9%. Shooter 36, 8%. Total 17%

Xbox 360 has 131% of the PS3 title count, or you could say PS3 has 76% of the 360s total title count.

In summary the difference between the platforms can be viewed as half a percent or one percent per library. That is statistically dead even. Both consoles libraries are one sixth shooting games. Further more the figures indicate that sales variance can be attributed to higher attach rates, and higher quality games. In fact the 360 has sold 175% of software compared to the PS3.

Now it is time to examine the publishers intentions.

Sony published 47, 3 FPS, 2 Shooters, 5 total for 11%
Microsoft published 37. 3 FPS, 3 Shooters, 6 total 16%

Sony published shooting games account for 16% of software sales.
Microsoft published shooting games account for 10% of software sales.
Microsoft sold 22.1 million copies. Sony sold 8.1 million copies.

The result Sony publishes more games. Microsoft published one more game. Sony has a higher percentage of library sales. Microsoft sold more copies. It balances out the debate is not in the manufacturers.

There is no factual argument that supports a significant difference between these platforms that merits a moniker such as the shooter box. The numbers tell the true story. There is no massive difference to be found. Even stealth attacking the users is bogus due to the sell through that Microsoft enjoys. It is an inevitable outcome of higher sales.

I agree.

Although "shooterbox" is only a nickname for the amount of shooters it sells, isnt it?

Microsoft should call their next console "Halo"

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EDIT: Or Halo Box, to make it sound more like the first two consoles.

I know that at this point I'm being ignored, but I must underline once again that counting titles doesn't mean much if the object of the argument was the behavior of the average user. The amounts of sold items do have a statistical relevance.

The availability in the library answers a different question ie: "can a discerning user find good games other than shooters in the 360 library". That's a legit question, and obviously the answer is yes, but that's not what the OP tried to demonstrate.

Plus saying "Even stealth attacking the users is bogus due to the sell through that Microsoft enjoys. It is an inevitable outcome of higher sales." is either dishonest, or it implies not understanding the numbers that have been posted, which were normalized by the total sales for each platform and thus expressed relative weight of different genres.

Don't worry, usually when people ignore you that means that they have no rebuttal due to you being correct.

You're post doesn't agree with the OP either, so no pat on the back for you here.

@WereKitten

Unfortunately your defending a bad argument for a title when there is a far better title to be found statistically. The 360 is less a shooter box then it is the role playing box. Let us return to the numbers, and I will show you a quantifiable difference that exists between the platforms.

PS3 role playing titles 12, 2.5% of library, total sales 3.78mil, 3% of title sales.
X360 role playing titles 23, 3.7% of library, total sales 17.44mil, 7.5% of title sales.

The 360 has almost twice the number of titles, has sold four and a half times the number of copies. The genre accounts for more then twice what it does on the PS3. This is a significant statistical difference. One that may be worthy of a title of acknowledgment.

The reason that the shooter box label is still making the circuit is for no reason other then it being used as a slur. The members that use it think it is derogatory. They will never refer to the 360 as the role playing box, because that is not a slur to them. In fact it is a positive statement. So they will continue you to use a very negative statement that is not even half as true as the positive one.

This debate is inspiring me to go create a label for the PS3 supported by this very statistical data. Maybe we can go the PS3 the fishing box, or maybe the bowling box. We simply must create a new insult.