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kowenicki said:
@tombi

so 28% ps3 and 35% 360.... thats just not a big differenmce really is it.

Bioshsock on a simultaneous release would have been in the top 25 for PS3 too, so then it would be even closer.

Also PS3 didnt even get COD2 and this was a very early title on 360 that was lapped up through a desire for a shooter....

 

 Bolded: How can you say this? In your OP you were comparing EXCLUSIVES.

Underlined: You could say the same for Resistance 1. 

Red: I don't think thats garenteed, it would have to sell 1.27M copies. Bioshock came out when the PS3 had a tiny userbase (about 5M I think). It came out before the PS3 price cut in 2007.



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tombi123 said:
kowenicki said:
@tombi

so 28% ps3 and 35% 360.... thats just not a big differenmce really is it.

Bioshsock on a simultaneous release would have been in the top 25 for PS3 too, so then it would be even closer.

Also PS3 didnt even get COD2 and this was a very early title on 360 that was lapped up through a desire for a shooter....

 

 Bolded: How can you say this? In your OP you were comparing EXCLUSIVES.

Underlined: You could say the same for Resistance 1. 

Red: I don't think thats garenteed, it would have to sell 1.27M copies. Bioshock came out when the PS3 had a tiny userbase (about 5M I think). It came out before the PS3 price cut in 2007.

 

 

But it didn't hit the PS3 until it had three times that... You'd think it would be selling pretty well now.



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TheSteve said:
tombi123 said:
kowenicki said:
@tombi

so 28% ps3 and 35% 360.... thats just not a big differenmce really is it.

Bioshsock on a simultaneous release would have been in the top 25 for PS3 too, so then it would be even closer.

Also PS3 didnt even get COD2 and this was a very early title on 360 that was lapped up through a desire for a shooter....

 

 Bolded: How can you say this? In your OP you were comparing EXCLUSIVES.

Underlined: You could say the same for Resistance 1. 

Red: I don't think thats garenteed, it would have to sell 1.27M copies. Bioshock came out when the PS3 had a tiny userbase (about 5M I think). It came out before the PS3 price cut in 2007.

 

 

But it didn't hit the PS3 until it had three times that...

But if you read what I was replying to, your comment doesn't matter.

 



your first game title for 360 kills your whole argument.

Halo 3 has sold more then double anything on either lists. Halo my friend, is a shooter.
The three highest on that list are Halo, Gears1,Gears2. While on the PS3's list its MGS4(Tactical Action Game), Resistance FOM(Shooter), and MotorStorm(Racer)

You left out Call of Duty, especially 4 which was MP which shows a much higher demand for shooters on 360 rather then PS3.

Number of Games on 360 that have a shooter Element or Tie in with Halo, a very promininent shooter series on 360

Halo3, Gears1, Gears2, Crackdown, Ace Combat, Saints Row, Mass Effect, Perfect Dark, Halo Wars, Left4Dead.(10)

Number of those on PS3...
MGS4,Res1,Res2,Socom,Killzone2,Haze, TimeCrisis, Uncharted, Warhawk. (9)



      

      

      

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tombi123 said:
TheSteve said:
tombi123 said:
kowenicki said:
@tombi

so 28% ps3 and 35% 360.... thats just not a big differenmce really is it.

Bioshsock on a simultaneous release would have been in the top 25 for PS3 too, so then it would be even closer.

Also PS3 didnt even get COD2 and this was a very early title on 360 that was lapped up through a desire for a shooter....

 

 Bolded: How can you say this? In your OP you were comparing EXCLUSIVES.

Underlined: You could say the same for Resistance 1. 

Red: I don't think thats garenteed, it would have to sell 1.27M copies. Bioshock came out when the PS3 had a tiny userbase (about 5M I think). It came out before the PS3 price cut in 2007.

 

 

But it didn't hit the PS3 until it had three times that...

But if you read what I was replying to, your comment doesn't matter.

 

 

 

D'jyou hit quote like an hour ago, and just get to posting it? I hit post before I was done with my thought, and corrected the post.  My point was that with Bioshock releasing NOW, it should be doing better than it is.

That said, I didn't pick it up forever for the 360, because I wasn't impressed with the demo.  I finally bought it when I saw it for $25, and I've only played it a handful of times.  Like Gears of War, Resistance, and Killzone 2, it's really NOT all it's cracked up to be.



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forevercloud3000 said:
your first game title for 360 kills your whole argument.

Halo 3 has sold more then double anything on either lists. Halo my friend, is a shooter.
The three highest on that list are Halo, Gears1,Gears2. While on the PS3's list its MGS4(Tactical Action Game), Resistance FOM(Shooter), and MotorStorm(Racer)

You left out Call of Duty, especially 4 which was MP which shows a much higher demand for shooters on 360 rather then PS3.

Number of Games on 360 that have a shooter Element or Tie in with Halo, a very promininent shooter series on 360

Halo3, Gears1, Gears2, Crackdown, Ace Combat, Saints Row, Mass Effect, Perfect Dark, Halo Wars, Left4Dead.(10)

Number of those on PS3...
MGS4,Res1,Res2,Socom,Killzone2,Haze, TimeCrisis, Uncharted, Warhawk. (9)

Might as well throw Fallout 3, GTAIV, Saints Row 2 and Resident Evil 5 into both as well with your criteria...

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TheSteve said:
forevercloud3000 said:
your first game title for 360 kills your whole argument.

Halo 3 has sold more then double anything on either lists. Halo my friend, is a shooter.
The three highest on that list are Halo, Gears1,Gears2. While on the PS3's list its MGS4(Tactical Action Game), Resistance FOM(Shooter), and MotorStorm(Racer)

You left out Call of Duty, especially 4 which was MP which shows a much higher demand for shooters on 360 rather then PS3.

Number of Games on 360 that have a shooter Element or Tie in with Halo, a very promininent shooter series on 360

Halo3, Gears1, Gears2, Crackdown, Ace Combat, Saints Row, Mass Effect, Perfect Dark, Halo Wars, Left4Dead.(10)

Number of those on PS3...
MGS4,Res1,Res2,Socom,Killzone2,Haze, TimeCrisis, Uncharted, Warhawk. (9)

 

Might as well throw Fallout 3, GTAIV, Saints Row 2 and Resident Evil 5 into both as well with your criteria...

 

yup, and they all work to the same effect....

360(14) PS3(13)



      

      

      

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TheSteve said:
tombi123 said:
TheSteve said:
tombi123 said:
kowenicki said:
@tombi

so 28% ps3 and 35% 360.... thats just not a big differenmce really is it.

Bioshsock on a simultaneous release would have been in the top 25 for PS3 too, so then it would be even closer.

Also PS3 didnt even get COD2 and this was a very early title on 360 that was lapped up through a desire for a shooter....

 

 Bolded: How can you say this? In your OP you were comparing EXCLUSIVES.

Underlined: You could say the same for Resistance 1. 

Red: I don't think thats garenteed, it would have to sell 1.27M copies. Bioshock came out when the PS3 had a tiny userbase (about 5M I think). It came out before the PS3 price cut in 2007.

 

 

But it didn't hit the PS3 until it had three times that...

But if you read what I was replying to, your comment doesn't matter.

 

 

 

D'jyou hit quote like an hour ago, and just get to posting it? I hit post before I was done with my thought, and corrected the post.  My point was that with Bioshock releasing NOW, it should be doing better than it is.

That said, I didn't pick it up forever for the 360, because I wasn't impressed with the demo.  I finally bought it when I saw it for $25, and I've only played it a handful of times.  Like Gears of War, Resistance, and Killzone 2, it's really NOT all it's cracked up to be.

Well year old ports never do very well. And surely Bioshock's poor sales on PS3 only go against what the TC is trying to prove.

 



forevercloud3000 said:
TheSteve said:
forevercloud3000 said:
your first game title for 360 kills your whole argument.

Halo 3 has sold more then double anything on either lists. Halo my friend, is a shooter.
The three highest on that list are Halo, Gears1,Gears2. While on the PS3's list its MGS4(Tactical Action Game), Resistance FOM(Shooter), and MotorStorm(Racer)

You left out Call of Duty, especially 4 which was MP which shows a much higher demand for shooters on 360 rather then PS3.

Number of Games on 360 that have a shooter Element or Tie in with Halo, a very promininent shooter series on 360

Halo3, Gears1, Gears2, Crackdown, Ace Combat, Saints Row, Mass Effect, Perfect Dark, Halo Wars, Left4Dead.(10)

Number of those on PS3...
MGS4,Res1,Res2,Socom,Killzone2,Haze, TimeCrisis, Uncharted, Warhawk. (9)

 

Might as well throw Fallout 3, GTAIV, Saints Row 2 and Resident Evil 5 into both as well with your criteria...

 

yup, and they all work to the same effect....

360(14) PS3(13)

Can't argue with you...  More pointing out the fact that something like 80%+ of the major titles released this gen are shooters or "contain shooter elements".  Stands to reason that, all things being equal (and they damn near are), the system with the better overall attach rate will have a higher FPS attach rate.

Fact: a shit-ton of shooter-like games are released every year

Fact: the 360 has a larger install base and better software-to-hardware attach rate

Fact: the 360 has a better attach rate for shooter titles than the PS3

Fact: none of that means all that much, taking all the facts into consideration

 Also: "Well year old ports never do very well. And surely Bioshock's poor sales on PS3 only go against what the TC is trying to prove."

Not arguing that, nor trying to defend the thread starter's point...  Just bringing up little ineguitties in the conversation.



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you count mgs4 as a shooter but crackdown and dead rising as action ? wut.

If it's about melee you can do that in mgs4 too.



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