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@ TripleMMM

I'm not quite sure what you're saying.

I don't want to put words in your mouth so I'll let you rephrase if you want.



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mowe said:
Yeah, this happens ALL the time. Until Wii proves itself as a viable hardcore gaming platform, great games will keep going HD exclusive.

 

 I agree.

However, I'd also agree with this statement: "Until the great games start coming to the Wii, the Wii will never prove itself as a viable hardcore gaming platform."

And thus, the vicious cycle goes on. This shows how hard it is to break out of negative feedback cycles: even when you own 50% of the market and are crushing your competition on a financial basis, it's still near impossible to break out of.



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@ TripleMMM

I'm not quite sure what you're saying.

I don't want to put words in your mouth so I'll let you rephrase if you want.

Guess I wrote what I only understand. :p

Maybe I should ask you this, what's your definition of immersive game play?



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naruto3336 said:
iF you are a hardcore fan then here is the list:

MadWorld
House of the Dead: Overkill
No More Heroes
Call of Duty: World at War

Here is the list of games to track before release:

The Conduit
Monster Hunter 3
Sin and Punishment 2 (Nintendo)
Assassin's Creed 2
Resident Evil: Darkside Chronicles
Dead Space: Extraction

As you can see there are a lot of games on the Wii that appeal to hardcore fans. If you want to ask anything about hardcore please feel free to ask me.



When was this announced for the wii?

 



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Dno said:
mowe said:

OK.

Gears of War - 5.88m
Assassin's Creed (360) - 4.49m
Resistance - 3.59m
Assassin's Creed (PS3) - 3.36m
Uncharted - 2.34m
Bioshock - 2.16m
Left 4 Dead - 2.16m
Mass Effect - 2.04m
Saint's Row - 1.94m
Lost Planet - 1.77m
Dead Rising - 1.65m
Crackdown - 1.49m
Army of Two - 1.46m
Heavenly Sword -1.36m

All those were new, mature IP's that enjoyed a good amount of sales success. I'd say this proves that even mediocre games like Heavenly Sword can be successful on HD consoles.

Now I want you to find me about that many Wii games that are new IP's and are mature games and sold reasonably well.

Those stats (or lack thereof) are what I use to form my opinion that the Wii has not proved itself as a viable mature gaming platform, in comparison to the HD consoles. I think developers also take this into consideration when deciding which platforms to design their game for, leading to what I believe is a lack of new mature games on Wii. Maybe my thinking is wrong here, but I honestly would love to be proven wrong.

Owned

 

 

Oh yea he so owned me considering the Wii barely has even gotten any new IPs that are M rated.  I can think of Madworld, No More Heroes and RE:UC as being new IPs that are M rated.  Half of those games he listed were hyped like no other.  I bet a large percentage of people that bought Halo bought Gears when it came out.  Saints Row is pretty much a copy of GTA.  Dead Rising and Left 4 Dead are zombie killing titles which usually sell decently since everyone loves zombies.  Resistance was a launch title when there wasn't really much available on the PS3 at the time. 


How can the Wii prove itself as a viable M rated gaming platform when the there are so few M rated titles being released.  You have to first release the titles for there to be any proof.  It would be like saying there is no life on other planets just because we haven't found any yet.  So lets look at some M rated titles that have been released granted that most aren't new IPs.

 

Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition - 1.57m

Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles - 1.27m

CoD:WaW - 1.13m

The House of the Dead 2 & 3 Return - .97m

No More Heroes - .40m

Madworld - .20m

 

Madworld will probably at least reach .5 - 1m lifetime.  CoD:WaW didn't do well at all at first but has been selling steady.  No More Heroes did well enough to grant it a sequel.  So if you want to set bs guidelines about the Wii not proving itself since there are hardly any M rated games even released then how about this guideline.  All HD games are a failure if they can't sell as well as Mario Kart, Wii Play, or Wii Fit.

 

 



This thread is an omega failure.

Wii success is bottering the HD fanboys and making them angry.



This was one of the worst reads for a long time for me.



nintendo_fanboy said:
Alacrist said:
saicho said:
Alacrist said:

I was just looking at videos for Infamous and Prototype, both games look amazing and i plan to get both but, where is the Wii's superhero snadbox game?????? I have all 3 systems now but at my core i'm a hardcore Nintendo fan. Such a shame i haven't played my Wii in months. 

if you like games on PS3 or 360, buy the games and play them on it. If you don't like the games on Wii, sell it.

What does "a hardcor Nintendo fan" actually mean? Also, I don't know how a game can be judged by watching the videos...

 

First of all i would like to say i'm sorry for creating a flame war that was not my orginal intention, second i like games on all 3 systems that why i buy games on all three systems. Now i understand that the Wii is not the graphic powerhouse that the 360 and PS3 is but in the "last-gen" systems most games came out for all three anyway and pretty much everything came out for the market leader at the time except first party games which is a no brainer. 

As far as the "I'm a hardcore Nintendo fan" comment i made, i didn't mean to be taking in a fanboyish manner, i simply meant that I really like Nintendo, more than i like Sony or Microsoft so i wish they could appeal to everyone. Also i have more games on my Wii than the other two so why would i sell it. i guess i didn't write out my point well enough to create a discussion i created a flame thread and i didn't mean to.

I just want to run around a city like i used to on Spider-man 2 and Hulk Ultimate Destrution on Gamecube they were fun.

Hey, great to see you on this page again Alacrist! You were the one that sended his Wii in back in 2007, right?

 

Yeah, that was me lol, i can't belive you remember that. I still come to the site every once in a while but i never really see the old names anymore lol. Good to hear from you.

 



 

  

 

Radical (makers of Prototype) are now working on 2 Wii games.

http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=72344

So...yay?

Also, Alacrist, take a look at my post about FFCC: The Crystal Bearers earlier in the thread.