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coolestguyever said:
Do you know what kids playing paintball aren't doing? Shooting up schools. That's what.

Why don't they practice stricter gun controls instead of banning fun games that people play so they don't feel the need to shoot people with real guns.

 

... until the match ends.

 

I dunno how I feel on this, on the one hand I love paintballing and personally don't feel encouraged to shoot things afterwards, but there are a lot of mentally uneasy and impressionable people out there. 



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boo Germany!



Germany so crazy rite now!



And that's the only thing I need is *this*. I don't need this or this. Just this PS4... And this gaming PC. - The PS4 and the Gaming PC and that's all I need... And this Xbox 360. - The PS4, the Gaming PC, and the Xbox 360, and that's all I need... And these PS3's. - The PS4, and these PS3's, and the Gaming PC, and the Xbox 360... And this Nintendo DS. - The PS4, this Xbox 360, and the Gaming PC, and the PS3's, and that's all *I* need. And that's *all* I need too. I don't need one other thing, not one... I need this. - The Gaming PC and PS4, and Xbox 360, and thePS3's . Well what are you looking at? What do you think I'm some kind of a jerk or something! - And this. That's all I need.

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TheRealMafoo said:
im_sneaky said:
TheRealMafoo said:
As someone with half my family murdered there in the 1940's, and someone with a very German Jewish last name, Germany was a little far down on my "favorite places to visit" list anyway :)

 


Don't worry, you can go to jail for question Holocaust numbers there. I think your safe.

 

A 2007 Survey showed that 44% of the country still hold classic anti-Semitic views. If I were to go to Germany, it only takes one drunk guy in a bar to ruin my vacation. 

No thank you. 

 

I feel sorry for your family. But today you don't have to worry at all. People would tend to apologize to you more than insulting you. New synagogues are built and if you say there was no holocaust you can book your ticket straight into jail (holocaust denying is actually a crime). People might be more interested about your background in a positive way than you can ever imagine. I even can't remember a crime against anything jewish for years. And if something like this happens, there's a big public reaction to it. All the newspapers will call the offenders a shame. The neo-nazi party tends to have demonstrations with 50 followers and at least 500 demonstrants against it.

 

As for the paintball-ban. It's even in magazines like the German times magazine, the "Spiegel", critized as a upcoming election propaganda. So it's not sure yet, if it gets passed.

 

As someone who enjoys paintball from time to time, I see the point why they want to ban it, but even if, it makes no big difference, because you never have to drive for more than 3-4 hours from anywhere in Germany to get to another country, where it's allowed. In my case (I live in Munich) it's one hour to austria and 1,5-2 hours to czech republic.

 



What's the point of them wanting to ban paintball again?

First Person Shooters present a far more accurate portrayal of firearms than paintball does. Why not ban the 50 other things closer, and more dangerous to crime than paintball?

Because it has a trigger? It shoots things?

Sooner or later, Germany is going to ban every single thing with a bladed edge, and force you to register knives 'just to be on the safe side'. Doesn't mean it's going to be a productive thing.



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Do we really want to encourage Germans to want to use guns?



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Signalstar said:
Do we really want to encourage Germans to want to use guns?

Of course. That was the last thing Hitler wanted - an armed German populace.

 



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mrstickball said:
Signalstar said:
Do we really want to encourage Germans to want to use guns?

Of course. That was the last thing Hitler wanted - an armed German populace.

 

 

Sorry, but I must tell you that you seem to have no idea about Germany under Hitler.

After the 1st world war, different armed civil groups were fighting each other until the mid 20ies (The SA and the SS where just 2 out of many). And under Hitler Germany had probably the biggest percentage of weapons in the population.

When Hitler finally took over, he strongly encouraged being armed and taught even children in the Hitler Jugend (Youth) how to use different weapons from pistols to grenades.

So much for Hitler didn't want an armed population.



Actually Germany are pretty much breaking rule number 1 in preventing mass shooting by doing this.

The idea is to let everyone forget about it and don't change a rule due to one directly isolated incident like this, if your going to change one don't mention the incident. It spurs more people to go killing than it prevents.



fmc83 said:
mrstickball said:
Signalstar said:
Do we really want to encourage Germans to want to use guns?

Of course. That was the last thing Hitler wanted - an armed German populace.

 

 Sorry, but I must tell you that you seem to have no idea about Germany under Hitler.

After the 1st world war, different armed civil groups were fighting each other until the mid 20ies (The SA and the SS where just 2 out of many). And under Hitler Germany had probably the biggest percentage of weapons in the population.

When Hitler finally took over, he strongly encouraged being armed and taught even children in the Hitler Jugend (Youth) how to use different weapons from pistols to grenades.

So much for Hitler didn't want an armed population.

"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty. So let's not have any native militia or native police. German troops alone will bear the sole responsibility for the maintenance of law and order throughout the occupied Russian territories, and a system of military strong-points must be evolved to cover the entire occupied country." --Adolf Hitler, dinner talk on April 11, 1942, quoted in Hitler's Table Talk 1941-44: His Private Conversations, Second Edition (1973), Pg. 425-426. Translated by Norman Cameron and R. H. Stevens. Introduced and with a new preface by H. R. Trevor-Roper. The original German papers were known as Bormann-Vermerke.

Nazi Weapons Act of 1938 (Translated to English)

  • Classified guns for "sporting purposes".
  • All citizens who wished to purchase firearms had to register with the Nazi officials and have a background check.
  • Presumed German citizens were hostile and thereby exempted Nazis from the gun control law.
  • Gave Nazis unrestricted power to decide what kinds of firearms could, or could not be owned by private persons.
  • The types of ammunition that were legal were subject to control by bureaucrats.
  • Juveniles under 18 years could not buy firearms and ammunition.

Hitler also banned firearms in Nazi-occupied territories during the war. For example, Holland after conquest:

The Holland Poster banning guns (click for closeup). Citizens had 24 hours to surrender all firearms to the Nazis or face the death penalty. Printed in German on the left and Flemish on the right. For translation, see below. From Die Deutsche Wochenschau, May 15, 1940. (Photo by Moser + Rosié, Berlin)

Regulations on Arms Possession in the Occupied Zone

1. All firearms and ammunition, hand grenades, explosive devices and other war matériel are to be surrendered.
The delivery must take place within 24 hours at the nearest German military administrative headquarters or garrison, provided that other special arrangements have not been made. The mayors (heads of the district councils) must accept full responsibility for complete implementation. Commanding officers are authorized to approve exceptions.

(quoted from here)

Hitler wanted an armed Nazi population, thus offering training to Hitler Jugend, while banning firearm ownership of Jews and occupied territories. Not really consistent with an armed populace...Only armed people that were willing to die for Hitler.



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