I guess the Wii name (wii sports/fit/play/music, etc) is pretty strong.
I guess the Wii name (wii sports/fit/play/music, etc) is pretty strong.
no because they didn't even know how to play this game and still wrote a review about this title(just look at ign gameplay movies).
| Zlejedi said: So? Your point is ? We on this forum are as hardcore gamers as you can get to the point of talking of our hobby and having huge disputes about it. Those reviews clearly show that for audience like ours this is shovelware.
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(Disclaimer, I've never actually played Wii music, so my rant below is being generic)
My point is that it isn't a disappointment that a game like this has sold well. Any true "hardcore" gamer would be happy that the market is expanding into new areas because a hardcore gamer plays and appreciates all types of games, not just those with an M rating on the packaging or a bunch of other people said was good so they don't have to think about what to buy next.
All the reviews show us is that the game journalism industry has its head up its arse and won't be drawing in new readers while they keep pandering to the crowd that needs to come on forums like these and reaffirm their manhood by pointing out how disappointing it is that games which don't involve killing everything that moves are selling.
For a group of people who truly apprecitate gaming, they should be happy that others can enjoy their passion. A lot of "hardcore" games are extremely complex for people who don't game seriously and are never going to have the skills to control a console FPS. Sure I expect a bit of fanboyism going on and people not to like everything that comes out, but there have been so many threads that go far beyond this into the land of arrogance and ignorance.
Wii Music could undeservedly end up selling 5 million copies ltd when it stops selling. Wii Music may be a mediocre game in terms of quality but it sells extremely well.
waron said:
no because they didn't even know how to play this game and still wrote a review about this title(just look at ign gameplay movies).
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Hmm. So you think reviewers should play a game which they dislike for many, many hours so they could "learn to play it"? Is that the same for online shooters? Like they should play at least 50 hours online because they don't know how to play the game.
For wii music, I did not see anything that required learning.
Kali said:
Hmm. So you think reviewers should play a game which they dislike for many, many hours so they could "learn to play it"? Is that the same for online shooters? Like they should play at least 50 hours online because they don't know how to play the game. For wii music, I did not see anything that required learning.
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they disliked it from the moment the heard nintendo is making a music title and that involves a little bit of creativity. even if the ps360 game or even a wii title is bad reviewers at least try to play this game to be sure that it's bad and doesn't have just bad beginning. in wii music reviews we just have rant and whinning of people who are stuck in mindless rhythm games. this game is about making your own music and not pushing buttons along side with music. you're just proving that you stucked with the rest of narrow minded people that don't want to give it a try cause it's too hard for them to actually put some effort in it - same people say that old games are bad cause they can't play them because they are too hard.
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they disliked it from the moment the heard nintendo is making a music title and that involves a little bit of creativity. even if the ps360 game or even a wii title is bad reviewers at least try to play this game to be sure that it's bad and doesn't have just bad beginning. in wii music reviews we just have rant and whinning of people who are stuck in mindless rhythm games. this game is about making your own music and not pushing buttons along side with music. you're just proving that you stucked with the rest of narrow minded people that don't want to give it a try cause it's too hard for them to actually put some effort in it - same people say that old games are bad cause they can't play them because they are too hard. |
So you think it is narrowminded not to like wii music? Amazing! Take a chill pill, you are too full of nerd rage.
Wii Music ranks as one of the lowest Nintendo first party critically reviewed games of all time around 63% on metacritic/gamerankings. So it may have succeeded in terms of sales quantity but it certainly does not measure up in terms of quality. Why a thread on Wii Music reaching 2.65 million, better to have waited for it to hit 3 million sales ltd?
What Wii Music does is completely unique in the world of gaming. It's a game that is about creating and understanding music. From what I've heard it has some problems (MIDI muisc and control lag first and foremost). If you dislike creating music, stay away from it.
Too much focus has been put on what Wii Music does wrong, and no focus on what it does RIGHT. It gives you a framework for creating music that requires little skill in that field, and it teaches you the basics of different music styles. This in itself is a very, very awesome thing, in my opinion.
When it comes to the reviews, my opinion is that it did show somewhat of a doublestandard among reviewers. You put people on reviewing the game that didn't like what it was supposed to do, and it got low review scores because of that. This would not happen with any other type of game. The perfect example is IGN's review of Football manager at around the same time. The reviewer simply didn't understand the game, gave it a really low score. IGN withdrew that review after complaints.
Wii Music will go on to sell around 3 million copies lifetime. I don't think that is unfair, nor is it bad. It shows that there are people out there that want to learn how to create music but don't know where to start.
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waron said:
yeah those reviews are as credible as Mao Tse Tung saying that China is not breaking human rights. seriously when they review whole game after 5-8h of playing it when learning how to play a single instrument takes few days you know this review is shit. besides this game is ascore as it can get - only hardcore gamers will enjoy it to the fullest cause it takes months or even years to master all the instruments. to all the haters - play this game or shut up and go to your generic FPSs where you don't need to use any brain cell, can finish in 5 hours and master after 5 minutes cause Wii Music is just too hard for you. |
5-8 hours? Are you serious? If even 1% of the reviewers that played this game spent that long on it, I'd be stunned (and I say this as someone that spent a great deal of time on the pro--read: paid--side of gaming 'journalism' and know all about the actual amount of time most reviewers spend with games they know ahead of time they--or their audience--won't like. Hell, you can't get half of those guys to play through games they do like before writing a review of it.)