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Euphoria14 on 05 May 2009

I think the Wii is the obvious king of casual gaming, exclusive or multiplatform.



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Pyro as Bill on 05 May 2009

Wiistation, I only wanted to compare Wii to HD. How I made my list is how you described because it was the easiest way. I started with the Wii list first but all the big sellers were 360 ones.

Ratatouille and Harry Potter are 2 games where Wii does better but I was specifically looking at best selling games.



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theRepublic on 05 May 2009
WiiStation360 said:

Should 3rd parties consider keeping the casual games to the HD consoles?

To be fair, you should compare sales of PS3/360 to Wii/PS2.  For casual games, development costs is normally shared between the two SD system.  I think you will find you number a lot different if do this.

Also, you seem to have "accidentially" left off a lot of causal games that sold really well on the Wii/PS2.

  • GH: Aerosmith
  • Shaun White Snowboarding
  • Wall-E
  • Lego Batman
  • Tiger Woods 09
  • Karaoke Revolution: American Idol
  • Disney Sing It!
  • Sonic Unleashed
  • Monopoly
  • The Incredible Hulk
  • Ratatoulle
  • etc

Looking at your list, it is sorted in descending order of XBox 360 sales.  It is almost as if you looked at the 360 million seller list and then compared those games along with the PS3 version to the Wii version.  Hardly a fair way to get a representative list of casual games, since you are only looking at the ones that sold well on the 360, and excluding the ones that didn't.  This alone will give you extremely biased results.

Wow.  That last paragraph is pretty damning.



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The Ghost of RubangB on 05 May 2009
theRepublic said:
WiiStation360 said:

Should 3rd parties consider keeping the casual games to the HD consoles?

To be fair, you should compare sales of PS3/360 to Wii/PS2. For casual games, development costs is normally shared between the two SD system. I think you will find you number a lot different if do this.

Also, you seem to have "accidentially" left off a lot of causal games that sold really well on the Wii/PS2.

  • GH: Aerosmith
  • Shaun White Snowboarding
  • Wall-E
  • Lego Batman
  • Tiger Woods 09
  • Karaoke Revolution: American Idol
  • Disney Sing It!
  • Sonic Unleashed
  • Monopoly
  • The Incredible Hulk
  • Ratatoulle
  • etc

Looking at your list, it is sorted in descending order of XBox 360 sales. It is almost as if you looked at the 360 million seller list and then compared those games along with the PS3 version to the Wii version. Hardly a fair way to get a representative list of casual games, since you are only looking at the ones that sold well on the 360, and excluding the ones that didn't. This alone will give you extremely biased results.

Wow. That last paragraph is pretty damning.

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blunty51 on 05 May 2009

Well it seems i have arrived too late to cut this thread down. At least Majin made his point and, even with prompting, made his exit. Good on ya.



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Words Of Wisdom on 05 May 2009
lapsed_gamer said:
Words Of Wisdom said:

- snip -

Several of those games (Panda, Lego, Marvel) look like the combined HD sales are beating the Wii's sales before the large leap from bundled sales.

The argument that a large chunk of sales from bundles is fair, but the OP's position is still pretty solid.

 

 

Going by 20th week of each game:

Kund Fu Panda: 167,005 PS3    201,114 Xbox360     290,589 Wii (Wii 44%)
Lego Indiana Jones: 361,551 PS3     494,204 Xbox360     745,747 Wii (Wii 46%)

Looks pretty close to the Wii's market share at the time.

What was this again?

Please reread my statement.

Using your numbers:

167 + 201 = 368 > 290

361 + 494 = 755 > 745



S.T.A.G.E. on 05 May 2009
Pyro as Bill said:

I'm going to define casual in this post as music games, sports games, movie/tv games. Games that non-gamers would recognise outside of gaming. Guitars, football, star wars etc.

I've used the best sellers and the combined multi-platform sales are all above 2.5M.

Guitar Hero 3

360 - 4.22M,  PS3 - 1.89M,       Wii - 4.19M

Lego Indy

360 - 3.28M,  PS3 - 0.52M,       Wii - 1.18M

Kung Fu Panda

360 - 2.86M,  PS3 - 0.37M,       Wii - 0.69M

Marvel Ultimate Alliance

360 - 2.45M,  PS3 - 0.27M,       Wii - 0.35M

Madden 08

360 - 2.41M,  PS3 - 0.92M,       Wii - 0.93M

RockBand

360 - 2.30M,  PS3 - 0.83M,       Wii - 1.30M

Madden 09

360 - 2.28M,  PS3 - 1.58M,       Wii - 0.84M

Sega Superstar Tennis

360 - 1.98M,  PS3 - 0.25M,       Wii - 0.86M

GuitarHero WT

360 - 1.95M,  PS3 - 1.18M,       Wii - 2.90M (Wii wins this one)

Lego Star Wars

360 - 1.14M,  PS3 - 0.69M,       Wii - 2.53M (Wii wins this one too)

Fifa 09

360 - 1.81M,  PS3 - 2.14M,       Wii - 0.64M (PS3 wins this one)

Star Wars Unleashed

360 - 1.67M,  PS3 - 1.16M,       Wii - 1.24M

 

I was actually quite suprised by these numbers. Given the huge install base of the Wii I expected it to have much higher sales, especially for games aimed at children like Kung Fu Panda.

Should 3rd parties consider keeping the casual games to the HD consoles?

Does the Wii have more core gamers than 360/PS3?

 

 

Based on the age groups who play the Wii, I wouldn't doubt the combined sales were low. Most of the Senior citizens who own the Wii are only playing Wii sports and things of that nature. Most of the people who have all the systems buy Rockband and Guitar Hero on the 360 anyway.

Why are you asking if the Wii has more core gamers than the PS3 and 360 when we're talking about casual games?



Gamerace on 05 May 2009

Okay here is some convenient cherry picked data of my own:

Sports 360 PS3 Wii

Tiger Woods '07 .90 .27 1.33
Tiger Woods '08 .68 .20 .87
Tiger Woods '09 .53 .49 1.1

Shaun White .6 .43 1.16

Movies

Harry Potter OoTP .53 .16 .95
Ratatoulle .22 .08 .92

Other

Dance Dance 1st Ed. .34 -- .95
Dance Dance 2nd Ed. .56 -- .58

Disney Sing It .23 .11 .62

Spryo Dawn of the Drag .21 .22 .35

Lego Batman .53 .42 .88


Hmmm... Wow... Wii won in all cases. Actually even in cases where HD combined is greater than Wii, if you include PS2 then PS2/Wii crushes PS360 numbers completely.



 

lapsed_gamer on 05 May 2009
Words Of Wisdom said:
lapsed_gamer said:
Words Of Wisdom said:

- snip -

Several of those games (Panda, Lego, Marvel) look like the combined HD sales are beating the Wii's sales before the large leap from bundled sales.

The argument that a large chunk of sales from bundles is fair, but the OP's position is still pretty solid.

 

 

Going by 20th week of each game:

Kund Fu Panda: 167,005 PS3    201,114 Xbox360     290,589 Wii (Wii 44%)
Lego Indiana Jones: 361,551 PS3     494,204 Xbox360     745,747 Wii (Wii 46%)

Looks pretty close to the Wii's market share at the time.

What was this again?

Please reread my statement.

Using your numbers:

167 + 201 = 368 > 290

361 + 494 = 755 > 745

Yes I know that the combined total is greater than the total for the Wii (notice I went to the trouble to calculate percentages for you.) I was just pointing out that the ratio was probably similar to the install bases of the Wii vs HD cosoles at the time. I didn't really want to dig up when these games hit 20 weeks to be sure.

And sorrry, the underlined portion of this isn't really directed to you. I was just wondering what conclusion we should take from this regardless of how we collect data.

 



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Ghutto on 05 May 2009

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