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griffinA on 04 May 2009
KylieDog said:
griffinA said:
KylieDog said:
Soleron said:
KylieDog said:
Same answer I always give:

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If you start excluding, or making out as special, certain games for one reason or another, where does it stop? Most of the games in the VGC top 50 would need asterisks.

Wii Sports - Bundled, therefore doesn't count
Wii Fit - People could be buying it for the board, therefore doesn't count
Monster Hunter G - It's a port so it "would have sold higher" if it had been new, therefore doesn't count
Pokemon Platinum - It's 99% the same game as D/P, why is it counted seperate, therefore doesn't count
MKWii - People could be buying for the wheel, therefore doesn't count
Wii Play - People buy for the controller, therefore doesn't count
Killzone 2 - Bundling distorts sales, therefore doesn't count
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon - Only selling because people buy both, therefore doesn't count
Professor Layton - It's just a compilation of puzzles that already exist in print, therefore doesn't count
New Super Mario Bros. - Bundling distorts sales, therefore doesn't count
The Godfather II - Multplat means some people buy both, therefore doesn't count
Halo 3 - People just bought it for the limited edition 360, therefore doesn't count
Mario Tennis - GC Remake with Wii controls tacked on, therefore doesn't count
Dynasty Warriors - Game isn't high enough quality (OP gave this as a reason), therefore doesn't count

So I can do this too. Maybe every word on VGC should have an asterisk with five pages of qualification and "what if"s.

 


 

 

Sorry but these examples are all stupid.   The difference between all of these and Wii Sports is that you have a CHOICE if you are going to own these or not.  You can buy a Wii or DS and not have to own these.

 

If you buy a Wii you are getting Wii Sports, like it or not.  Wii Sports is therefor just part of the Wii package and not a sale.

 

 

 What about people who actually wanted wii sports? Their obvious sales just shouldn't count?

 

 

If they want Wii Sports they are fortunate that it is part of the Wii package and they do not have to buy it.

So even if you bought the wii only for wii sports your sales don't count? That's just not fair.



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NJ5 on 04 May 2009

I still don't understand how people can deny that a sold game is a sold game.



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Arius Dion on 04 May 2009

Wow, I'm going to regret even posting in a thread like this, but whatever. I find it funny that no one had an issue with the best selling game being bundled before when it was SMB, no talk of asteriks or nada. But now that its Wii Sports "oh no!!!" man kill this thread, already.



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mike_intellivision on 04 May 2009
kowenicki said:
good... we all agree it is a forced sale or a free item... therefore its sales numbers mean jack.

 

A force sale is still a sale. I am with NJ5 -- I don't know how people can deny that a sold game is a sold game. Nintnedo builds the price of the game into the cost of the console in non-Japan territories.

What is so funny is this game would be past the 20M mark WITHOUT BUNDLING and people still think it does not matter. (That calculation is based upon roughly 44% of Japanese game buyers buying the game separately).

 

Mike from Morgantown

 

Bundling is as old as the industry itself.

 



      


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saicho on 04 May 2009

wasn't there an article (and a thread) on how Nintendo is selling Wii Sports but not Wii? Actually Wii is bundled with Wii Sports and not the other way around. Therefore, all Wii hardware sold should not count and MS is the real leader of this gen console war!



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pakidan101 on 04 May 2009

I believe we need an asterisk for txrattlesnakes comments stating "*I am bulshitting in order to rile up fervor and gain useless vg$ by getting users to fight or agree with my BS"


Seriously, when a person doesn't have an open mind, forgets that there are people with different opinions who contribute to the makeup of this world and must be counted, you end up with this dribble...

"My opinion matters more than yours, therefore blah blah blah" makes zero-shit sense and needs to stop...or at least treated with little attention...

We need to treat this post as it should be, like a whining little toddler's screams. If you don't get your way, whining about it in the real world doesn't get you anywhere...just makes you look stupid. This goes to all other whiners as well, in all three camps.



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redspear on 04 May 2009

Back in the Day I have known people who sold Wiis in the atermarket. He had to assure people he had Wii Sports and that the system came with Wii Sports and he even had to open the box and show a few people that it did in fact come with Wii Sports.

It may not be the most technical game ever. It is a fun game and whether or notyou or I like it it is responsible for the Wii sales...Hint it was selling like Hot Cakes before SSBB and MKWii and even SMG. It didn't sell on Nintendo's name alone and the controller while a lure nobody buys a game system for a controller with no games to play.

Comparing Wii ports current annual sales to games 1 year newer then it is retarded those two games you mentioned MKWii and Wii Fit have monster legs just like Wii Sports does in Japan they are just further up the channel and it is a very weak argument.

Comparing it to games that have been out over a year longer with total sales is a bit more fair but then again still shows bias because you still have a whole additional year in sales in NSMBs case and 4 practical years of sales in SMBs case.

You do buy Wii Sports because it was more expensive in the US and Europe than Japan.

Finally WSR will be the true test of this and I predict higher sales for that in Japan.



Soleron on 04 May 2009
redspear said:
Back in the Day I have known people who sold Wiis in the atermarket. He had to assure people he had Wii Sports and that the system came with Wii Sports and he even had to open the box and show a few people that it did in fact come with Wii Sports.

It may not be the most technical game ever. It is a fun game and whether or notyou or I like it it is responsible for the Wii sales...Hint it was selling like Hot Cakes before SSBB and MKWii and even SMG. It didn't sell on Nintendo's name alone and the controller while a lure nobody buys a game system for a controller with no games to play.

Comparing Wii ports current annual sales to games 1 year newer then it is retarded those two games you mentioned MKWii and Wii Fit have monster legs just like Wii Sports does in Japan they are just further up the channel and it is a very weak argument.

Comparing it to games that have been out over a year longer with total sales is a bit more fair but then again still shows bias because you still have a whole additional year in sales in NSMBs case and 4 practical years of sales in SMBs case.

You do buy Wii Sports because it was more expensive in the US and Europe than Japan.

Finally WSR will be the true test of this and I predict higher sales for that in Japan.

This. A lot.

 



ctk495 on 04 May 2009
LoGalaki said:
Gnac said:
Not this shit again.

 

Same shit. Different people.

:)

Lol I am making this same thread later this year.

 



D-FENS on 04 May 2009

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