I've seen this "gamers would be better off if every console had 33% of the market" idea before, and I still don't understand it.

If one console ends up with 90% of the market, then gamers need to buy one console. A three way tie might force price drops and bundles, but you still have to buy two extra systems.

Yes, you want a lot of competition for hardware early on - this is what produces new features and affordable prices - and a lack of perceived competition is likely what happened to the PS3 (fortunately, there actually was a great deal of competition from the Wii). However, gamers should want two of the consoles to very quickly fail so that all third parties have no choice but to develop exclusively for just one console.

A three way tie minimizes competition and profits for games - third parties aren't competing that much with games on other platforms and an exclusive can only ever reach 33% of the market.

The ps3 will keep its sales... that means that it will be worthless for the next years.

Doesn't matters anyway, when you are a console and you don't have any game to play you are truely the doomed.

I agree competition is great and does create price drops an bundles.

I am not sure I want to see two systems fail early though, I don't mind buying 2 systems... its just retarded to have to buy three. I don't want to see the 360 succeed 100% even though it is my favorite system cause then we will see very little with the wii mote.  And I don't want to see the Wii succeed cause then we are stuck in 480p and horrible online support.

I don't mind two succeding especailly when they are very different, however I don't want two to succeed that are basically the same system and are extremely expensive... cause then consumers loose having to buy 2 systems instead of one.

 So I agree to a point.

lol ioi is such a tease hehe

okay, heres my guess for about this week

wii has fallen to about 105-100k, ioi meant in the other thread that wii just outsold 360, so that means 360 is about 90-95k.

what did i win?

Inversely, it forces most third parties to go completely multi-platform with their properties. While you might not get every first party offering with one console, you will be getting the majority of third party apps.

Having one company hold 90% of the market is never good for consumers. It allows for bullying, high prices, lackluster support (why bother keepipng up? they already have the market), and a myriad of other problems. In short, it promotes laziness by the company holding the vast majority of the market.

 fact: rocketpig is smart.

3 : 1 for the Xbox360 in NA ?

completely possible for september/october

but for november/december, I think the ratio will significatively decrease.

 I seriously doubt they would release this supposed 40gb ps3 with in 7 days.  With out any publicity, advertisement, or acknowledgement of it.  Even if it was to be made and come out during the week of halo 3 release it would be stomped because of the halo adverstisements and add to the fact could they ever have produced enough to make a dent in the halo 3 or 360 sales.

I think the 360 will outsell the ps3 3:1 all the way to december.  It has a steady line up of great games for this holiday season and I think they will be able to push the systems says for this christmas season.

Unless we knew if/when the 40GB PS3 would come out, whether Sony will have any critically acclaimed games this holiday, and whether there will be any additional price cuts or discounts (MS offered heavy discounts last year), it's all pure speculation as to how the PS3/360 sales will relate.

Why advertise it in advance? That's a bad idea -- let people buy the other PS3s now, and advertise the 40GB model when the 40GB model comes out. That's all that makes any sense. For all we know, Sony could release the 40GB model tomorrow and we have no reason to suggest that doesn't make sense.  Although I suspect we'll see some pictures or hints about it (like we did with the 80GB model) before it comes out.