Calling the companies liars about what they feel? That is bull. If Take Two really thought the game would open like the 3D GTA games, they would have marketed it like them. They didn't.

It's called a sale. Games go on sale and often shortly after they're released. The game is nearing half a million in sales once numbers are released for the last week. There is no doubt the game will hit one million and I think two million is likely. While that might not compare to GTA3 and after, how would it stand up against similar GTA games like GTA 1&2?

I've lost a lot of faith in Nintendo appealing to the hardcore fans but at the same time, I'll give my honest opinion on the matter. What I won't do is look for endless things to make threads about to try and rip them. At this point in the life of the DS and Wii, we've seen countless games debut relatively small only to go on to become massive hit games. I made a thread to prove exactly that point (at least for the Wii) a couple months ago.

The RRP is £24.99 according to Amazon but the day it appeared on the Amazon site it was priced £17.99, as my post some months on this site states.

Hate to interject a note of reality here, but judging just from the NPD numbers (which it appears is the name of the game here) Chinatown Wars had a better opening, week-per-week, than the PSP GTA games.

This is especially important to note when you realize that those games started only a few thousand better than Chinatown Wars but chugged their way up to the millions that they have now. It appears to be a very leggy series...

Horsepower, or rather lack thereof.

This.

One store has a sale and everyone flips-the-fuck out.

There is a difference between "core" games and "adult" games. The DS and the Wii are not directly comparable in demographics, and to be honest, your argument that they are is very simplistic, not very well thought out, and an obvious attempt at degrading the DS console by grouping it in with the Wii and pretending they have the same issues.

Compare the sales of the top "core" games on the DS to the PSP and you'll understand why you were wrong.

Once you've done that, I await your reply.

ya its bombing b/c 100% of DS owners are between ages of 2-8

That's not true!!!

There's a couple of 40 year olds playing Brain Age too.

And there are an awful lot of people spending every waking moment on this forum making threads and replies willing to attack everything Nintendo does to the death. You lose the right to whine about people defending Nintendo when you're the one constantly attacking them and everything related to them. That's right, the majority of your posts are always railing against something remotely related to Nintendo.

I love how all of these supposed "former" Nintendo fans come crawling out of the woodwork in the face of the success of the DS and the Wii screaming and whining about how they've been abandoned and blah blah while spending most of the time talking about specific games on Wii/DS who's supposed scarcity led them to bail on Nintendo in the first place. We get it, you can't be against Nintendo and support efforts like CTW and expect to be taken seriously be anyone. Really, we do. How dare Take-Two give the DS a GTA game. Just...how dare they!

But really, a Best Buy sale? Not a press release, a MSRP drop, you know...something remotely credible? Just one store's temporary sale? OMG FLOPZZZZ!111 I guess it's a step up over the trolls that were clinging to first week sales (and have already disappeared into the shadows after humiliating themselves), but really this latest stunt just reeks of desperation.

I imagine as CTW starts to close in on the PSP GTA sales, arguments will shift to "compared to install base" or "developer expectations." Anything to move those goal posts!

yeah it does sound innapropriate