That and GT is rated much much higher and offers much much more. GT5 for example is offering 800 cars and 96 tracks while forza 2 offered 300 and 96 tracks. GT is such a big name they release prologues, or big demos which are bigger then most games to fund the next game. They go out and use the money to buy cars, and crash them for example for damage in GT5.

GT3 was highly rated at 9.5 meta reviews.

GT4 took a downturn to 9.4 meta because it didn't really bring anything new.

GT1 was rated at 9.6.

GT2 was rated at 9.2.

Forza at 92 which by no means is bad. Forza 2 was 90.

GT is simply better quality, even GT5p was much much better graphically then forza 2.

Resistance: Fall of Man sold more than that. GT5P sold more than that. Why the hell would Gran Turismo 5 sell 3 million?

You're just trolling now.

Last time I checked they still aren't sure if there will be damage in GT5.   And shouldn't you be comparing the list of cars from GT5 with those of Forza 3?   If Forza 3 has damage and GT5 doesn't it's list of cars (each with its own damage) would be just as impressive.

The main reason I doubt GT5 will have damage is its huge car list.  Each of those cars would have to add the damage, and that would take a lot more time and WAAAAYYYY more money to complete.  So don't let the old excuse "the car manufacturer doesn't want us to add damage" work.

Yeah like i said.  I'm sure Forza 3 and GT5 will be pretty much the same game, with minor diferences.  

You know what the difference between 92-96 and 90-92....NOTHING!!  they are both AAA games.  whether you like it or not, Forza is not "far inferior" to GT.

I'm goina say this for about the hundreth time.  Forza doesn't have the name and GT fanboys, like you, refuse to play it because it doesn't have GT in its name...What part of that is so hard to understand??

 Not at all. What I said is that GT5 will reach 3 millions no matter what. It could eventually reach 5 millions but won't come close to what GT3 did that's for sure.

Thats about as ignorant as as saying then next sandbox game to get +9s is the same as GTA or the next hack and slash to get 9s willl be equal to the GOW games.

Thes no point in discussing anything with you if you are to dense or simply to much a fanboy to try to understand simple reasoning.

LMAO iam sure bayonetta is giving Sony nightmares that it might eat GOW3 sales.

Could lol

GT5p does 3 million (no psn sale included) yet the full GT willl only do 5 million.  Halo3 is near 10 million even though it came out on a 12 million ww 360 user base yet GT a proven franchise time and time agian will only do 5 million.

Do you even have one remotly semi intellignet reason behind it, are are you like a child screaming that their opinion must be right because its theirs.

Like i said your one of those GT fanboys that won't even try forza simply because it doesn't have the name Gran Turismo.

And fyi GT and Forza 3 are basically the same damn thing wether you like it or not.

And about the bolded...its true, if a game can get above a 90 then they obviously did do something right....that brings us right back to the name.

So here's using your logic:  A gaming studio makes a GTA sanbox type of game.  It scores two points less on metacritic then GTA4.  It sells good but doesn't sell even close to GTA4 numbers  Does that mean the game is greatly inferior??  No it doesn't.  They obviously are about as good as each other.  And the only reason why the game doesn't sell like GTA4 is because it doesn't have the name.

Also with your logic if the said GTA-like game scored much higher than GTA4, it would still be greatly inferior to GTA4. 

You and I both know that is complete bogus.

So can you please just take those fanboy glasses off??

First probelm with your thinking is you take game scores way to litteraly.

And yes a game can be 9.5 yet still far inferior to GTA, rockstar has perfected the way the make these games.  Few devs are on that level.  Rockstar and sandbox games is like PD and racers like Miyamoto and platformers or maybe you will undersdtand this better like Bungie and FPS. 

Fact is great games sale great, Gears1 Halo1 GT1 all sold great due to their quality they had no great established name to carry them.

Universal reviews and sales show GT to be the best, and as far as name look at Need for speed kid.  One of the biggest franchises once is not a joke.  With out quality name means NOTHING. 

and fyi id guess to you a M3 and Accord are the same dame thing.

Sigh...all i'm trying to say is that GT and Forza as a whole aren't really that much different then each other.

Neither one of them are amazingly superior to the other.  They both have advantages and disadvantages.

They are both AAA games.  Its as simple as that.