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SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- Advanced Micro Devices Inc.'s loss widened in the first quarter as demand and prices for its microprocessors slumped and charges for the biggest restructuring in the company's 40-year history took their toll.

Its shares slipped 5 percent in after-hours trading on disappointing guidance.

AMD reported after the market closed Tuesday that it lost $416 million, or 66 cents per share, in the opening three months of the year. It wasn't as bad as Wall Street projected.

Without one-time charges, the loss would have been 62 cents per share. On that basis, analysts polled by Thomson Reuters expected a loss of 66 cents per share. During the same period last year, AMD lost $364 million, or 60 cents per share.

Sales dropped 21 percent to $1.18 billion, but were still higher than estimates of $978 million.

The Sunnyvale-based company forecast lower second-quarter sales, which likely disappointed investors who were expecting more optimistic guidance -- along the lines of AMD's bigger rival Intel Corp. Last week, Intel projected that its sales would be flat, and Chief Executive Paul Otellini said the personal computer market might have "bottomed out" after its worst stretch in six years.

Analysts were expecting AMD to record $975 million in second-quarter sales, down about 28 percent from the $1.35 billion in revenue from the second quarter of 2008.

The guidance raised questions about whether AMD expects to lose market share to Intel, a prospect that AMD's CEO Dirk Meyer sought to knock down. Intel has about 80 percent of the worldwide market for personal computer microprocessors -- the brains of those machines. AMD has roughly the rest.

"The economy is still weak, making it very difficult to forecast end-user demand," Meyer said on a conference call with analysts, noting that the first and second quarters are typically the weakest for chip makers. "I've heard some say we've hit bottom. I don't know how someone could say we've hit bottom in the current economic climate."

AMD said it sold fewer microprocessors and they commanded lower prices, on average. The average selling prices for server chips was up while notebook chip prices were down, Meyer said. The microprocessor division's sales fell 21 percent to $938 million.

The number of graphics chips sold were also down, but their prices were up. Sales in AMD's graphics division fell 15 percent to $222 million.

AMD has paid dearly to get a foothold in graphics chips: its $5.6 billion acquisition of graphics chip maker ATI Technologies in 2006 saddled AMD with major debt that has contributed to the company's financial woes in recent years.

AMD underwent a major transformation in the first quarter, spinning off its manufacturing arm with the help of the Abu Dhabi government, a move designed to save money. It was also a concession that AMD can't keep pace with Intel in the race to build costly, cutting-edge chip factories.

AMD's latest results included numbers from AMD and the spinoff, which is called GlobalFoundries. Included in the one-time charges are $195 million in restructuring charges and spinoff-related charges.

One closely watched figure that also proved a disappointment was AMD's gross profit margin, which is an important measurement of a company's profitability once the cost of making its products is stripped out. For chip makers, it's especially significant because their back-end costs are so high.

AMD said that its gross profit margin as a standalone company -- excluding GlobalFoundries and minus one-time charges -- was 35 percent of revenue. Ashok Kumar, an analyst with Collins Stewart, said that was about 5 percentage points short of expectations, and combined with AMD's high expenses indicates the company might still have a long way to go to return to profitability.

"Their numbers are so volatile and the business model is in flux -- there's nothing you can hang your hat on," he said.

AMD shares shed 17 cents, or 5.1 percent, to $3.19 in after-hours trading. During the regular session, they gained 5 cents, or 1.5 percent, to close at $3.36.

 



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They really need a killer CPU right about NOW




They really need a better spu



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Perhaps its time they launched some comparable products so they actually matter on the market again?
Anyways, sad news to me, I
ve had only ATi cards thus far and been thrilled but see no other option than going Nvidia next time oif things keep up (performance gap).
Price isn't all that to me when I get a GPU, cheap cards don't get to utilize games to the fullest and its not like I buy them often (every three years or so, the cards, that is).
Don't have any relevant experience with their CPU's but I know quite a few who have burned themselves (nearly literally) on overclocking and high performance optimization with them.



Strategyking92 said:
They really need a better spu

 

an SPU wouldnt help them at all.. why would they want to have one?

AMD is royally screwed versus Intel it seems. Intel is shipping 32nm processors at the moment. Westmere dual-cores have hyper threading making them 10+% faster then Core 2s that have the same speed.

AMD might control start pulling control in the GPU market though. Sadly the HD4890X2 is practically worthless. It will be the fastest GPU on the market but it will require its own power supply to run it since 1GB models are suspected to need 370w of power, and GPU manufacturers are planning 4GB models which means 400w requirements. CrossFireX with the HD4890X2 would mean around 800w needed.

Even I cant believe that AMD has managed to make a GPU that is less energy efficient then Nvidia's GPUs...



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Imagine the crap they'd be in without being the maker of the Wii's GPU.

Something needs to be done, otherwise, Intel will be all that's left.



ssj12 said:
Strategyking92 said:
They really need a better spu

 

an SPU wouldnt help them at all.. why would they want to have one?

AMD is royally screwed versus Intel it seems. Intel is shipping 32nm processors at the moment. Westmere dual-cores have hyper threading making them 10+% faster then Core 2s that have the same speed.

AMD might control start pulling control in the GPU market though. Sadly the HD4890X2 is practically worthless. It will be the fastest GPU on the market but it will require its own power supply to run it since 1GB models are suspected to need 370w of power, and GPU manufacturers are planning 4GB models which means 400w requirements. CrossFireX with the HD4890X2 would mean around 800w needed.

Even I cant believe that AMD has managed to make a GPU that is less energy efficient then Nvidia's GPUs...

 

Are you f......ing kidding me?! Looks like I'll go Nvidia indeed...



ssj12 said:
Strategyking92 said:
They really need a better spu

 

an SPU wouldnt help them at all.. why would they want to have one?

AMD is royally screwed versus Intel it seems. Intel is shipping 32nm processors at the moment. Westmere dual-cores have hyper threading making them 10+% faster then Core 2s that have the same speed.

AMD might control start pulling control in the GPU market though. Sadly the HD4890X2 is practically worthless. It will be the fastest GPU on the market but it will require its own power supply to run it since 1GB models are suspected to need 370w of power, and GPU manufacturers are planning 4GB models which means 400w requirements. CrossFireX with the HD4890X2 would mean around 800w needed.

Even I cant believe that AMD has managed to make a GPU that is less energy efficient then Nvidia's GPUs...

Don't believe those rumors, there will be no such thing as a 4890X2.

Why? because Rv870 (HD5850/HD5870) is expected to go in mass production in July already meaning there will be an HD 5870X2 shortly after. Why the hell would they need an 4890X2? To have the crown for 2 months? ehh no

 




Sucks to be AMD...that's what happens when you try to shot down the big down, and you don't have your shit together...they went for splash and pizzazz against Intel, and got their butt placed in a sling for launching.



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nojustno said:
ssj12 said:
Strategyking92 said:
They really need a better spu

 

an SPU wouldnt help them at all.. why would they want to have one?

AMD is royally screwed versus Intel it seems. Intel is shipping 32nm processors at the moment. Westmere dual-cores have hyper threading making them 10+% faster then Core 2s that have the same speed.

AMD might control start pulling control in the GPU market though. Sadly the HD4890X2 is practically worthless. It will be the fastest GPU on the market but it will require its own power supply to run it since 1GB models are suspected to need 370w of power, and GPU manufacturers are planning 4GB models which means 400w requirements. CrossFireX with the HD4890X2 would mean around 800w needed.

Even I cant believe that AMD has managed to make a GPU that is less energy efficient then Nvidia's GPUs...

Don't believe those rumors, there will be no such thing as a 4890X2.

Why? because Rv870 (HD5850/HD5870) is expected to go in mass production in July already meaning there will be an HD 5870X2 shortly after. Why the hell would they need an 4890X2? To have the crown for 2 months? ehh no

 

whats the power consumption on that? I hope it isnt like the rumored 4980X2...

 



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