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Kasz216 said:
Yojimbo said:
Kasz216 said:
Yakuza 3 only broke even huh? That's... disapointing... considering everyone here thought it sold really well.

Its break even on the sale to date. They can still spend little money translating and shipping to the rest of the world and make profit of it game.

 


Have you seen the first two games numbers outside of Japan?

The better hope is in the game having legs.

Really it makes you wonder how much they lost on Yakuza Kenzan!.

It really depends how the legs go.  They were great on the PS2 versions.  Kenzan... not so much.

Nice trolling,

you are the real man!

 



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This was a good read. Not as good as noname taking some names on page 13 though.



BengaBenga said:
Don't want to ruin the party, but breaking even is NOT a success at all. It means they could have put the money they spent making Yakuza 3 on the bank and made more money. That's not how companies work.

So you mean losing money like ps3 for 3 years still can't break even is a real success?

It is already a success for such a game that can break even in two months and now is starting to make profit.

 

 



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Max King of the Wild said:
NoCtiS_NoX said:
outlawauron said:
NoCtiS_NoX said:
Yakuza 3 was heavily advertised in Japan right?
Was Kenzan heavily advertised to? Advertising ain't cheap guys.

Y3 had some great ads and Kenzan had some much less so.

Kenzan sold well enough to get Yakuza 3 on PS3. Yakuza 3 sold well enough, despite being much more expensive with lots of ads, is profitable.

And that's my point. Kenzan sold well. Just irritated at the negativity here.


half of kenzan was also developed fo r the ps2. dev cost wouldnt be the same as a ps3 title and being a spin off the budget was probablly less to begin with or else it probably wouldnt of gotten the green light

That's why I don't get it, why they keep on saying that Kenzan sold poorly. It's a spin-off for crying out loud.

 



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msnolp said:
BengaBenga said:
Don't want to ruin the party, but breaking even is NOT a success at all. It means they could have put the money they spent making Yakuza 3 on the bank and made more money. That's not how companies work.

So you mean losing money like ps3 for 3 years still can't break even is a real success?

It is already a success for such a game that can break even in two months and now is starting to make profit. 

 

 

Sorry, but I don't completely get what you're saying. Especially not what the PS3 has to do with it.
But breaking even is always bad for a business. Sega invests money in making Yakuza 3. They want a return on that otherwise it's a waste of money.

Simple example: If I have $1000 to spend I can put it on the bank for ~5% interest, buy shares/bonds and make ~10% or invest it in something I'm good at (for Sega that's making games) to get a higher percentage. The purpose of a company is making money for its shareholders, breaking even on a ~$10 million game is simply not good and definitely not a success.

If you pay attention to Japanese sales you'll see that game sales are very frontloaded there. Yakuza 3 won't sell a lot anymore.

 

Outlawauron said:
Y3 had some great ads and Kenzan had some much less so.

Kenzan sold well enough to get Yakuza 3 on PS3. Yakuza 3 sold well enough, despite being much more expensive with lots of ads, is profitable.

Yakuza 3 was already long in development when Yakuza Kenzan was released, so its sales have nothing to do with Yakuza 3 being released.
I do agree that it is a much cheaper game to develop, so it's not obvious whether it's a success or not.



Just like Valkyria Chronicles wouldn't sell anymore, or demon's soul would die after two weeks, or RE5 which was supposed to have RE4 Gamecube numbers?



@ BengaBenga )

the cheap edition will sell atleast an additional 100-150k, which is all profit



Isn't valkyria chronicles making a come back in sales? I thought I saw it in the top 20 software (Japan) in the preview for this week (or last week). Yakuza 3 can always do what Valkyria Chronicles has done and get a re-release at a cheaper price point.

Then there's always the opportunity of releasing the game to the European and American market(s) with some modest advertising behind it. With a decent advertising campaign I think it could potentially make a profit. I mean it's a GTAIV style game afterall...it should appeal to Western gamers - peple just need to know about it, and see for themselves how good (and fun) the game looks.



ukeatdabian said:
Kasz216 said:
Yojimbo said:
Kasz216 said:
Yakuza 3 only broke even huh? That's... disapointing... considering everyone here thought it sold really well.

Its break even on the sale to date. They can still spend little money translating and shipping to the rest of the world and make profit of it game.

 


Have you seen the first two games numbers outside of Japan?

The better hope is in the game having legs.

Really it makes you wonder how much they lost on Yakuza Kenzan!.

It really depends how the legs go.  They were great on the PS2 versions.  Kenzan... not so much.

Nice trolling,

you are the real man!

 

How is the fact that the game doesn't sell well outside of the US trolling?