Kasz216 said:
Really it makes you wonder how much they lost on Yakuza Kenzan!. It really depends how the legs go. They were great on the PS2 versions. Kenzan... not so much. |
Nice trolling,
you are the real man!
Kasz216 said:
Really it makes you wonder how much they lost on Yakuza Kenzan!. It really depends how the legs go. They were great on the PS2 versions. Kenzan... not so much. |
Nice trolling,
you are the real man!
This was a good read. Not as good as noname taking some names on page 13 though.
| BengaBenga said: Don't want to ruin the party, but breaking even is NOT a success at all. It means they could have put the money they spent making Yakuza 3 on the bank and made more money. That's not how companies work. |
So you mean losing money like ps3 for 3 years still can't break even is a real success?
It is already a success for such a game that can break even in two months and now is starting to make profit.

Max King of the Wild said:
half of kenzan was also developed fo r the ps2. dev cost wouldnt be the same as a ps3 title and being a spin off the budget was probablly less to begin with or else it probably wouldnt of gotten the green light |
That's why I don't get it, why they keep on saying that Kenzan sold poorly. It's a spin-off for crying out loud.

msnolp said:
So you mean losing money like ps3 for 3 years still can't break even is a real success? It is already a success for such a game that can break even in two months and now is starting to make profit.
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Sorry, but I don't completely get what you're saying. Especially not what the PS3 has to do with it.
But breaking even is always bad for a business. Sega invests money in making Yakuza 3. They want a return on that otherwise it's a waste of money.
Simple example: If I have $1000 to spend I can put it on the bank for ~5% interest, buy shares/bonds and make ~10% or invest it in something I'm good at (for Sega that's making games) to get a higher percentage. The purpose of a company is making money for its shareholders, breaking even on a ~$10 million game is simply not good and definitely not a success.
If you pay attention to Japanese sales you'll see that game sales are very frontloaded there. Yakuza 3 won't sell a lot anymore.
Kenzan sold well enough to get Yakuza 3 on PS3. Yakuza 3 sold well enough, despite being much more expensive with lots of ads, is profitable.
Yakuza 3 was already long in development when Yakuza Kenzan was released, so its sales have nothing to do with Yakuza 3 being released.
I do agree that it is a much cheaper game to develop, so it's not obvious whether it's a success or not.
Just like Valkyria Chronicles wouldn't sell anymore, or demon's soul would die after two weeks, or RE5 which was supposed to have RE4 Gamecube numbers?
@ BengaBenga )
the cheap edition will sell atleast an additional 100-150k, which is all profit
Isn't valkyria chronicles making a come back in sales? I thought I saw it in the top 20 software (Japan) in the preview for this week (or last week). Yakuza 3 can always do what Valkyria Chronicles has done and get a re-release at a cheaper price point.
Then there's always the opportunity of releasing the game to the European and American market(s) with some modest advertising behind it. With a decent advertising campaign I think it could potentially make a profit. I mean it's a GTAIV style game afterall...it should appeal to Western gamers - peple just need to know about it, and see for themselves how good (and fun) the game looks.
ukeatdabian said:
Nice trolling, you are the real man!
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How is the fact that the game doesn't sell well outside of the US trolling?
