Localization and especially marketing costs are not to be taken lightly.

im not the foolish one who thinks sega gets paid from customers. if the game is sold at less than 60 dollars its retail getting the whack not sega since they already got paid for it. also you arent taking the shipments that dont sell that sega got paid for already too. exactly 55k copies werent shipped with every single one being sold

what marketing?

@noname

I'm not saying sharing an engine is a bonus. I'm just saying when u combine the costs of both projects (Yakuza Kenzan & 3) they didn't end up giving Sega a profit, well not yet anyways, I don't know about legs. Did i miss what what u were trying to argue though?

As for Madworld, i'll be happy with No More Heroes level sales, after all it was profitable & we're getting a sequel XD

why dont people realize kenzan was developed for the ps2?

Not exactly. The game sold 300k before the cheaper re-release hit.

That re-release has sold over 50k.

VGC has trouble tracking the "Playstation 3: The Best" games it seems.

I'm not saying it'll be next to nothing going the Yakuza 2 route, but they have gone to cheap route to appeal to that hardcore fanbase.

25% (aka $15) goes to pay the art and design guys.

20% ($12) goes to pay the programmers and the engineers.

20% (also $12) goes to your friendly neighborhood retailer. EB / GameStop, whoever.

11.5% ($7) goes to a "Console Owner Fee" - ie. whichever one of the Big Boys made your hardware (Sony, MS, Nintendo.)

7% ($4) goes to marketing, and puts Mad World and Marcus Fenix on MTV.

5% ($3) goes to "market development" -- paying for cardboard Standees of the Gears Crew and elbowing other games out of the way for shelf space at your local retailer.

5% ($3) goes to actually manufacturing and packaging the disc.

5% ($3) is spent paying the Man for IP licenses or maybe hiring some big name voice actors. If your game isn't an original IP, here's where you get dinged by Marvel, Disney, or Ray Liotta's agent.

1.5% (just $1) goes into the publisher's pocket.

1.5% (also $1) goes into the distributor'spocket. 0.3% (about 20 cents) goes into corporate costs. Management, overhead, lawyers, etc.

0.05% (less than 3 cents) go into the cost of paying for the Developer's Hardware. Who knew an SDKs can cost tens of thousands of dollars?

They'll release a high-profile (it's not Opoona), not Western-accepted game overseas and not spend on marketing? What for? Satisfy fans? Please...

20% for programmers? Hardly. As one, although not in the same caliber/branch I can say we don't get nearly enough paid, nowhere near the graphics/design guys.

It's what they did with Yakuza 2.