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Akvod on 20 April 2009
shio said:
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/reply.php?thread=69169&quote=2055882
Akvod said:
chris1_16 said:

I'd say WRPG.

Not to say that I don't love JRPGs but I'm just not a fan of the whole strategy combat thing (even though I'm use to it) and JRPGs have weird looking protagonist (not that its a bad thing)

I think the weaknesses of WRPGs is combat, and that although their openess is a plus and adds to the role playing part, it can also hurt in that the story can't really be controlled in positive manner by the writers, and they have to design a story with multiple endings in mind.

The characters in WRPGs are weaker IMHO, notably because you play as one character instead of a dedicated party that follows you and interacts with you. They're usually one shot characters for a quest.

You don't know what you're talking about. The best videogame story ever is Planescape: Torment, a pure WRPG. WRPGs actually have a much higher writing and narrative quality than JRPGs and also make much better and original stories and characters.

As for the combat, I suggest you take a look at Baldur's Gate 2, which blows away any RPG combat system in terms of tactics, customization and strategy.

I respect your opinion, but I defintely know what my opinion is and what I just said...

 



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KLucifer on 20 April 2009

JRPG...

i can't stand WRPG...i feel like i'm playing a single player version of Diablow or WOW...i find both games boring...and being single player makes it even more boring

i like storylines



whofwhof on 20 April 2009

u need to ask?
JRPG



Fossil on 20 April 2009
shio said:
Akvod said:
chris1_16 said:

I'd say WRPG.

Not to say that I don't love JRPGs but I'm just not a fan of the whole strategy combat thing (even though I'm use to it) and JRPGs have weird looking protagonist (not that its a bad thing)

I think the weaknesses of WRPGs is combat, and that although their openess is a plus and adds to the role playing part, it can also hurt in that the story can't really be controlled in positive manner by the writers, and they have to design a story with multiple endings in mind.

The characters in WRPGs are weaker IMHO, notably because you play as one character instead of a dedicated party that follows you and interacts with you. They're usually one shot characters for a quest.

You don't know what you're talking about. The best videogame story ever is Planescape: Torment, a pure WRPG. WRPGs actually have a much higher writing and narrative quality than JRPGs and also make much better and original stories and characters.

As for the combat, I suggest you take a look at Baldur's Gate 2, which blows away any RPG combat system in terms of tactics, customization and strategy.

 

Jesus Christ, the guy states an OPINION and you through a piss-fit over it?

Anyways, JRPG for me. Shin megami tensei owns my soul.

 

 



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griffinA on 20 April 2009

I haven't played a lot of WRPGs but I like both. I like RPGs in general. Can't we all just get along?



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chris1_16 on 20 April 2009
d21lewis said:
Jrpg's seem to be unable to evolve. They tell a decent story, but they don't involve the player as much as wrpg's. Wrpg's seem to be less afraid of breaking new ground.

Wrpg's Ftw.

nice

 

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Dgc1808 on 20 April 2009
shio said:
Akvod said:
chris1_16 said:

I'd say WRPG.

Not to say that I don't love JRPGs but I'm just not a fan of the whole strategy combat thing (even though I'm use to it) and JRPGs have weird looking protagonist (not that its a bad thing)

I think the weaknesses of WRPGs is combat, and that although their openess is a plus and adds to the role playing part, it can also hurt in that the story can't really be controlled in positive manner by the writers, and they have to design a story with multiple endings in mind.

The characters in WRPGs are weaker IMHO, notably because you play as one character instead of a dedicated party that follows you and interacts with you. They're usually one shot characters for a quest.

You don't know what you're talking about. The best videogame story ever is Planescape: Torment, a pure WRPG. WRPGs actually have a much higher writing and narrative quality than JRPGs and also make much better and original stories and characters.

As for the combat, I suggest you take a look at Baldur's Gate 2, which blows away any RPG combat system in terms of tactics, customization and strategy.

 

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Oniichan on 20 April 2009

JRPGs for me are above WRPG. I just love the way JRPGs can pull you emotionally into the story to the point of shedding a tear. No WRPG has done that for me. Stories and character development are just done better in JRPGs (thoough there are a few gems in WRPGs).

The 1 thing i do like about WRPGs is that it gives you options (good or bad) and multiple endings.



.jayderyu on 20 April 2009

I have question. If RPG means Role Play which Role means you become the person. How is that a game where you have no substantial choices in development of your character and more importantly no choices in how your character makes choices in the game world be classified as an RPG?

In understand the argumentative point that RPG is about character advancement, but it's not. Also games like FF don't really let you advance noticeably outside of certain predetermined designs. While FF has been prone to include the magical alternate advancement, gear and levels tend to drive characters on a predetermined course of killing growth.

So I am asking to understand from the JRPG Gamer perspective what justifies JRPG as an RPG to a person who has been playing Pen and Paper RPG for 20 years? because I don't get it. Though I still enjoy the JRPG for story so I'm not saying they are bad games.



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Fossil on 20 April 2009
.jayderyu said:
I have question. If RPG means Role Play which Role means you become the person. How is that a game where you have no substantial choices in development of your character and more importantly no choices in how your character makes choices in the game world be classified as an RPG?

In understand the argumentative point that RPG is about character advancement, but it's not. Also games like FF don't really let you advance noticeably outside of certain predetermined designs. While FF has been prone to include the magical alternate advancement, gear and levels tend to drive characters on a predetermined course of killing growth.

So I am asking to understand from the JRPG Gamer perspective what justifies JRPG as an RPG to a person who has been playing Pen and Paper RPG for 20 years? because I don't get it. Though I still enjoy the JRPG for story so I'm not saying they are bad games.

 

Consider it an RPG in it's battle system rather than it's narative then. Plus the FF (and RPGs as a whole) have past the D&D roots for a while now.



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