routsounmanman said: Slimebeast said: routsounmanman said: Slimebeast said: KylieDog said: Slimebeast said: routsounmanman said: It doesn't have muscles, 60-player online and Hollywood cinematics. Common sense.    Typical. That was a troll comment. U fail in Ur stealth bashing of the US.     I think you need recognise a joke. Oh I did. But it was a sarcastic joke with a stealth message.   Grand Theft Auto IV Take-Two Interactive 0.24 2.40 2.92 5.56 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare Activision 0.13 2.16 1.92 4.21 Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots Konami 0.68 1.56 1.67 3.91 Resistance: Fall of Man Sony Computer Entertainment 0.14 1.39 2.05 3.58 Motorstorm Sony Computer Entertainment 0.08 1.51 1.89 3.48 Assassins Creed Ubisoft 0.09 1.42 1.84 3.35 Call of Duty: World at War 0.00 1.74 1.45 3.19 Gran Turismo 5 Prologue Sony Computer Entertainment 0.67 0.65 1.69 3.01 Uncharted: Drakes Fortune Sony 0.06 0.89 1.37 2.32 LittleBigPlanet Sony Computer Entertainment 0.14 0.89 1.13 2.16 FIFA 09 0.04 0.37 1.70 2.11 PES 2009: Pro Evolution Soccer 0.39 0.07 1.47 1.93 Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock RedOctane 0.02 1.27 0.58 1.87 Resident Evil 5 Capcom 0.45 0.63 0.71 1.79 Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 Konami 0.32 0.03 1.38 1.73 FIFA 08 Electronic Arts 0.02 0.35 1.31 1.68 Need for Speed: ProStreet Electronic Arts 0.04 0.64 0.96 1.64 Madden NFL 09 Electronic Arts 0.00 1.45 0.13 1.58 Resistance 2 Sony Computer Entertainment 0.09 0.86 0.62 1.57 Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction Sony Computer Entertainment 0.08 0.56 0.82 1.46 Killzone 2 Sony Computer Entertainment 0.00 0.71 0.70 1.41 Fallout 3 Bethesda Softworks 0.06 0.64 0.68 1.38 Heavenly Sword Sony Computer Entertainment 0.06 0.46 0.84 1.36 Need for Speed: Undercover 0.05 0.36 0.85 1.26 Devil May Cry 4 Capcom 0.31 0.51 0.44 1.26 Guitar Hero: World Tour 0.00 0.77 0.39 1.16 Star Wars: The Force Unleashed LucasArts 0.00 0.55 0.61 1.16 WWE Smackdown vs Raw 2008 THQ 0.01 0.56 0.57 1.14 Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas 2 Ubisoft 0.04 0.57 0.47 1.08 Street Fighter IV Capcom 0.13 0.48 0.40 1.01 11/30 Halo 3 Microsoft 0.11 6.79 2.56 9.46 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare Activision 0.09 5.12 2.06 7.27 Grand Theft Auto IV Take-Two Interactive 0.09 4.40 2.50 6.99 Gears Of War Microsoft 0.08 3.73 2.07 5.88 Call of Duty: World at War   0.00 3.77 1.56 5.33 Gears of War 2 Microsoft 0.00 3.16 1.64 4.80 Assassins Creed Ubisoft 0.07 2.96 1.45 4.48 Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock RedOctane 0.01 3.25 0.92 4.18 Forza Motorsport 2 Microsoft 0.04 2.46 1.48 3.98 Lego Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures LucasArts 0.00 2.26 0.98 3.24 Kung Fu Panda Activision 0.00 2.00 0.82 2.82 Fable II Microsoft 0.10 1.63 0.97 2.70 Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion 2K Games 0.09 1.85 0.72 2.66 Guitar Hero II RedOctane 0.00 2.11 0.34 2.45 Marvel: Ultimate Alliance Activision 0.00 2.45 0.00 2.45 Madden NFL 08 Electronic Arts 0.00 2.37 0.03 2.40 Call of Duty 2 Activision 0.02 1.79 0.58 2.39 Rock Band MTV Games 0.00 1.98 0.32 2.30 Fallout 3 Bethesda Softworks 0.09 1.49 0.71 2.29 Call of Duty 3 Spike 0.03 1.57 0.69 2.29 Madden NFL 09 Electronic Arts 0.00 2.16 0.11 2.27 Tom Clancy Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter Ubisoft 0.02 1.55 0.67 2.24 Bioshock 2K Games 0.03 1.22 0.91 2.16 Left 4 Dead Electronic Arts 0.03 1.73 0.33 2.09 Mass Effect Microsoft 0.00 1.40 0.63 2.03 Fight Night Round 3 Electronic Arts 0.01 1.55 0.42 1.98 Sega Superstars Tennis Sega 0.00 1.47 0.51 1.98 Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas 2 Ubisoft 0.02 1.33 0.62 1.97 Saints Row THQ 0.02 1.27 0.65 1.94 Tom Clancy Rainbow Six: Vegas Ubisoft 0.03 1.19 0.72 1.94 Need for Speed: ProStreet Electronic Arts 0.01 1.16 0.76 1.93 Guitar Hero: World Tour   0.00 1.45 0.48 1.93 Madden NFL 07 Electronic Arts 0.01 1.85 0.04 1.90 FIFA 09   0.01 0.42 1.35 1.78 Lost Planet: Extreme Condition Capcom 0.10 1.19 0.47 1.76 Resident Evil 5 Capcom 0.10 1.03 0.56 1.69 Project Gotham Racing 4 Microsoft 0.02 0.49 1.17 1.68 Star Wars: The Force Unleashed LucasArts 0.00 1.06 0.61 1.67 Dead Rising Capcom 0.08 1.08 0.49 1.65 Rock Band 2   0.00 1.41 0.16 1.57 Need for Speed: Most Wanted Electronic Arts 0.03 1.04 0.50 1.57 Crackdown Microsoft 0.04 1.02 0.43 1.49 FIFA 08 Electronic Arts 0.01 0.38 1.06 1.45 Army of Two Electronic Arts 0.02 1.03 0.40 1.45 Viva Pinata Microsoft 0.02 0.35 1.08 1.45 WWE Smackdown vs Raw 2008 THQ 0.00 0.99 0.43 1.42 Tom Clancy Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2 Ubisoft 0.00 0.91 0.49 1.40 Project Gotham Racing 3 Microsoft 0.05 0.57 0.77 1.39 Far Cry 2   0.02 0.68 0.65 1.35 Need for Speed: Carbon Electronic Arts 0.03 0.82 0.48 1.33 Saints Row 2 THQ 0.02 0.74 0.56 1.32 Perfect Dark Zero Microsoft 0.04 0.72 0.53 1.29 Need for Speed: Undercover   0.01 0.53 0.72 1.26 Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 Konami 0.04 0.08 1.09 1.21 Soul Calibur IV Namco 0.07 0.64 0.43 1.14 Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga LucasArts 0.00 0.69 0.45 1.14 Tom Clancy Splinter Cell: Double Agent Ubisoft 0.02 0.67 0.45 1.14 Devil May Cry 4 Capcom 0.07 0.69 0.35 1.11 Battlefield: Bad Company Electronic Arts 0.04 0.64 0.42 1.10 Halo Wars Microsoft 0.03 0.72 0.35 1.10 Pro Evolution Soccer 6 Konami 0.02 0.08 0.98 1.08 Dead or Alive 4 Tecmo 0.11 0.38 0.52 1.01 25/62 Am I wrong? And that's not only US numbers, as you tried to paint me a cherry picker. PS: I'm counting FPS or shooter-like games (I counted Fallout 3 yet not Mass Effect)      What r u trying to prove? That 11/30 + 25/62 = 36 of 92 games have either muscles, 60-player online or Hollywood cinematics in them? That's just 39%, I don't think that's much. That's just the shooter stuff, if I take into account all three parameters we reach a staggering 49/92 games, more than 50%. What I'm saying is true and you know it. A large portion of the HD install base is teenagers, especially 18-20 years old. Thus they want muscular, huge and impressive heroes/heroines shooting / beating up stuff and then sit back and enjoy 20 hour cinematics that cost a shitload to produce. Afterwards, when they finish the game, they play their 60 player deathmatches.

I dont like that prejudice. It sounds so elitistic, as if your Mirros Edges, Okamis, ICOs and Prince of Persias were so high cultural and sophisticated.

And I like epic games with cinematics myself. And I love brutal games.

And I think it's an overused generalisation, because the opposite types of games, just look at Nintendo games, are just as popular as shooters and epic games.

Without a lot of hype and marketing... cool new things tend to not do well...

maybe not so many people wanted to spend $60 for a game that lasts about 6 hours. hell, I didn't even pay $50, especially because of the comments about the gun sections and the overall linearity of the game as well. and the time trial is DLC, so it wasn't there when the game launched.

people didnt buy it because it wasnt any good. this isnt some gem that has been overlooked.

because not everyone like these sort of games

People didn't not buy it because it wasnt any good.This is some gem that has been overlooked.

Wow...and the fan boys among us have crawled out of their dark little holes. I dunno, the game is new and fresh, it's something different, off the beaten path. I kinda like the anime cutscenes, and the colors...it's like an orgasm for the eyes!!!

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If this was a wii game people would say because wii can't sell hardcore games. Lol

Anyway, haven't seen much of the game, but the ads on tv were kinda cool, but I'm not really in to games like that. Perhaps I would have liked it better if it was 3rd person instead of 1st person.

I really liked the game personally. Sure there was a lack of polish... and yes there isn't a lot of positive things to say about the story... and maybe, just maybe, the cutscenes did look like they came straight out of an esurance commercial... but that doesn't mean the game still wasn't fun to play.

I actually liked how they approached combat too. It made sense that a 120 pound asian women wouldn't be able to take on a squad of heavily armed soldiers straight on (though once you got the hang of disarms you're almost unstoppable). There's a high learning curve, but once you get past it the combat becomes a nice break from the running and jumping instead of a chore.

I dunno, maybe I just give extra credit to games that try something new.