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^ No PS1 games were 40$ and N64 games ranged from 60-70$ it was around the PS2 era they announced games would be a standard of 50$

Then right before 360 came out EA and MS released special edition Halo 2 and Madden for 60$ after they sold so well EA and MS said it was a test to see if people would pay 60$ for games and make it standard for the upcoming gen.



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Production costs, Cartridges costs far more to produce than CDs so licensing fees were way higher for N64 games. This caused 3rd party developers flocked to the PS1 which offered lower fees giving game developers higher profits.



It was cheaper to develop PS1 games, so PS1 got more games, so PS1 had a more diverse library which attracted a more diverse userbase, so more types of games were able to sell. This attracted more developers, which made more games, and the super success spiral began.

There were a few other issues involved, but the cheaper development and cheaper CD's were probably the biggest reasons.



ps1 had better games and were on CDs



 

 

 

 

The nintendo had epic first party games but the 3rd party ones were exactly like this generation- shovelware--and heavy at that.

ps1- the graphics were a bit better, the titles a bit more varied, and the fact that it used CDs was always helpful since Sony could just add another CD if memory became a problem.



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You should be beaten, burned to ashes then someone should throw your ashes from a plane

i totally agree with what you are saying. the N64 was always the system that lacked FMV and voices. it was pretty lame to see the ps1 have such great cut scenes when all the N64 had was stills and text. true it is one of the greatest systems of a generation but i think that we have to look at overall library and we also have to look at the effort. ps1 i think would have to be the best in its time. RE truly puts it up there. but i would think that n64 still kicks ass. thanks for a good post and for a great thorough recollection of what nintendo made at the time.



Orca_Azure said:
The nintendo had epic first party games but the 3rd party ones were exactly like this generation- shovelware--and heavy at that.

ps1- the graphics were a bit better, the titles a bit more varied, and the fact that it used CDs was always helpful since Sony could just add another CD if memory became a problem.

 

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“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

Are you kidding? Did you see the games the PS1 had?

The N64 had the better FPS games but the PC was much better for that anyway.

Mario Kart was great... but I prefer racers like Need For Speed, Ridge Racer, etc.

This gen was the prime of JRPGs but the N64 didn't offer much of that.

The PS also had more mature and unique adventure games like Resident Evil, Metal Gear Solid, Silent Hill, Tomb Raider, etc.

The PS had the best fighters while N64 had mediocre fighters.

The PS had huge collection of niche games that wouldn't sell on the N64.

Software pricing. I could grab PS games for like $20 bucks while N64 games typically only dropped to $40.

I could go on and on. This is a silly thread.



shams said:
Lots of reasons:
- at the time, carts were seriously inferior. They were too small, and too expensive.
- the N64 was underpowered. The PSX/PS1 has significantly better polygon throughput - and even though the N64 has "prettier" polygons, with extra work PS1 games were a lot better.
- because of the cart cost, 3rd-parties shied away from the N64. It was too hard to make a profit.

In the end, PSX had more better games. Technically it was easier to make something cool, with the space on a CD a big part of the reason (unlimited content basically).

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I really, really hope we see a new console without disc based media soon (web is taking over really). Carts are so big now, and there are significantly technical advantages of carts vrs disc media.

 

N64 strength>PS1 strength.


There are a lot of points to argue against the N64 'failure' (a lot of which I could debate about if I cared enough), but power is not one of them.



By life end:

  • Wii- 100 million+
  • Xbox360- 35~40 million
  • PS3- 30 million
  • PSP- 30~32 million ------------- FAILURE
  • NDS- 85~90 million (Skeptical)  - FAILURE
  • NDS- 100 million+ (Optimistic) -- Success!