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Legend11 on 17 April 2009

I think a console's full lineup should be taken into account rather than just a list of exclusives. I'm sure people will argue about 360 games appearing on PC but once you start talking about owning multiple consoles what's the point of comparing individual consoles against each other anymore?


Would the following comparison between two cars make any sense?

A person that is biased wants to compare two cars against each other but also wants to include owning a second car since it includes options that one of the cars has in its favor. Does that seem like a fair comparison to you? Why are some people so afraid of comparing a PS3 to the 360 that they have to bring a PC into the mix?

As for some games the 360 has that the PS3 doesn't:

Mass Effect
Infinite Undiscovery
Lost Odyssey
Halo 3
Fable 2
Gears of War
Gears of War 2
Left 4 Dead
Project Gotham Racing 3
Project Gotham Racing 4
Crackdown
Ace Combat 6
Star Ocean: The Last Hope
Viva Pinata
Banjo Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts
Blue Dragon
Dead of Alive 4
Call of Juarez
The Lord of the Rings: Battle for Middle Earth 2
Frontlines: Fuel of War
Prey
Shadowrun
Supreme Commander
Universe at War: Earth Assault
Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise
Hour of Victory
Condemned: Criminal Origins
F.E.A.R. Files
Naruto: Rise of a Ninja
Naruto: Broken Bonds
Ninja Blade
Perfect Dark Zero
Saints Row
Operation Darkness
Warhammer: Battle March
Too Human
Project Sylpheed
Ninety-Nine Nights
Earth Defence Force 2017
Dead Rising
Kameo
...

Add to that the fact it has DLC for major games that the PS3 doesn't:

GTA IV: Lost and Damned
Fallout 3: Operation: Anchorage
Fallout 3: The Pitt
Tomb Raider Underworld: Beneath the Ashes
Tomb Raider Underworld: Lara's Shadow
Fable 2: Knothole Island
...


And that also doesn't take into account that many multi-platform games run and look better on 360 than PS3.  Don't believe me?  Try running Madden (any version) on 360 next to the PS3's counterpart.  I have and there is a very noticeable difference that people see immediately.

I think that counts for more than just 3 games that the original poster seems to imply.



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nightsurge on 18 April 2009
GameAnalyser said:
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why is SF iv not important, since it is not ur type of game? Well u can't ignore the fanbase it's got.

The future iterations still would thus mean more for both consoles. NFS undercover almost tied despite ps3 getting the lazier port of the game. And if Re5 had grossed about two times the way it did with Cod:WAW then i would've considered it instead of the fact that it would go past ps3 no's within few months.

There is no point of gathering all the games since the most of the games u would post would be those multiplatforms that received advantage from user-base in America outnumbering ps3 by 2:1


And RE5 and SF4 have no advantage in Japan where it is 3:1 in favor of PS3? So those count but my list wouldn't... I see.
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As we both have to agree now that 360 h/w sales in Japan had faired poorly since 2005 launch and Japanese userbase advantage can't be compared with the larger and wider userbase in America, the gamers there are with different taste. What happened to Star Ocean 4 sales from SE...

Somebody's PC not working?  You just posted this a while ago and I already read it.

Japan makes a huge difference for a game like RE5.  They are huge RE fans.  The sales in the first week for RE5 on PS3 equaled the first week sales of the bigger regions by itself!  That's no small advantage and if you think it can't be compared then that basically follows exactly what I already said.

 

 I thought u mite've not read the misplaced post..

Well with 17 mn userbase of 360 in America alone RE5 was supposed to push worldwide total far beyond  their acquired first week sales as compared to 350k in Japan. And don't try to make excuses hereafter that Americans are not huge fan of RE5 series.

And u didn't answer the ques regarding Star Ocean 4...

 

 

Nothing was wrong with Star Ocean 4 sales.  It sold in line with most of the past Star Ocean games.  It sold very well for a JRPG in Japan and world wide is on track to hit over 500k which is always a good achievement for JRPG's.

 

 

 

yeah with less than 1mn userbase it sold so...what if SE had released it on ps3? JRPG are always hot..sells like razor blades..now Square- Enix would be wondering the gross if they had released it on ps3.

They would have gotten a few hundred thousand more sales.  Maybe a bit more than the 360 version given the larger install base.

 



Orca_Azure on 18 April 2009

arcade is twice as cheap- simple :D



Kantor on 18 April 2009

Fact: Xbox will never have a Team ICO game or God of War.



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GameAnalyser on 18 April 2009
nightsurge said:
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why is SF iv not important, since it is not ur type of game? Well u can't ignore the fanbase it's got.

The future iterations still would thus mean more for both consoles. NFS undercover almost tied despite ps3 getting the lazier port of the game. And if Re5 had grossed about two times the way it did with Cod:WAW then i would've considered it instead of the fact that it would go past ps3 no's within few months.

There is no point of gathering all the games since the most of the games u would post would be those multiplatforms that received advantage from user-base in America outnumbering ps3 by 2:1


And RE5 and SF4 have no advantage in Japan where it is 3:1 in favor of PS3? So those count but my list wouldn't... I see.
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As we both have to agree now that 360 h/w sales in Japan had faired poorly since 2005 launch and Japanese userbase advantage can't be compared with the larger and wider userbase in America, the gamers there are with different taste. What happened to Star Ocean 4 sales from SE...

Somebody's PC not working?  You just posted this a while ago and I already read it.

Japan makes a huge difference for a game like RE5.  They are huge RE fans.  The sales in the first week for RE5 on PS3 equaled the first week sales of the bigger regions by itself!  That's no small advantage and if you think it can't be compared then that basically follows exactly what I already said.

 

 I thought u mite've not read the misplaced post..

Well with 17 mn userbase of 360 in America alone RE5 was supposed to push worldwide total far beyond  their acquired first week sales as compared to 350k in Japan. And don't try to make excuses hereafter that Americans are not huge fan of RE5 series.

And u didn't answer the ques regarding Star Ocean 4...

 

 

Nothing was wrong with Star Ocean 4 sales.  It sold in line with most of the past Star Ocean games.  It sold very well for a JRPG in Japan and world wide is on track to hit over 500k which is always a good achievement for JRPG's.

 

 

 

yeah with less than 1mn userbase it sold so...what if SE had released it on ps3? JRPG are always hot..sells like razor blades..now Square- Enix would be wondering the gross if they had released it on ps3.

They would have gotten a few hundred thousand more sales.  Maybe a bit more than the 360 version given the larger install base.

 

Not maybe a bit more, definitely by a huge margin ps3 would've outsold the 360 version. For that particular first week there was a sudden boost in H/W sales for 360. And Square Enix must've realised the difference by now if it was for ps3.

 



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Neoraf on 18 April 2009
CMoney said:
FACT - XBOX 360 has 139 games over 80 on metacritic.

PS3 has 96 games over 80 on metacritic.

Xbox greater quality AND quantity than ps3

He is right.
People need to be informed.

Anyway, for me, I'll always go where the RPGs are.

And the RPGs are on the Xbox 360.


For non-believers, please look:
RPG Released on Xbox 360 so far:

  • Mass Effect
  • Star Ocean 4: The Last Hope
  • Lost Odyssey
  • Blue Dragon
  • Tales of Vesperia
  • Fable 2
  • Eternal Sonata
  • Phantasy Star Universe
  • Fallout 3 + DLC chapters
  • The Last Remnant
  • Spectral Force 3
  • Final Fantasy 11
  • Unfinite Undiscovery
  • Oblivion
  • Kingdom Under Fire

Incoming:

  • Lost Odyssey 2
  • Magna Carta 2
  • Final Fantasy 13
  • Mass Effect 2
  • Vandal Hearts: FoJ
  • Sacred 2: Fallen Angel
  • Divinity 2
  • Champions Online
  • Arcania
  • The Secret World
  • Blue Dragon 2
  • Mass Effect 3
  • Dragon Age


     

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GameAnalyser on 18 April 2009

That's a good list u posted but the incoming list doesn't seem that impressive. But I am sure it's going to make 360 sales surge up thru all regions combined. With a few more JRPG titles...360 can increase the Japanese  userbase. From now on 360 needs all focus on JRPGs to boost sales in Japan.



Neoraf on 18 April 2009

Thank you GameAnalyser!
Btw... is there a better incoming RPG list anywhere else? :)

On PS3? Besides WKC and FF13:vs...
On Wii?

I.
don't.
think.
so.

Love.



     

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whatever on 18 April 2009
CMoney said:
FACT - Consumers DO NOT CARE if a console came out a year earlier - they just want the games and game quality!!!!

Do you think people refused to buy a ps2 because it came out a year before xbox?

History is your friend, it will spare you embarassment in the future.

The Dreamcast says HELLO!

 



Jordahn on 18 April 2009
Neoraf said:
Thank you GameAnalyser!
Btw... is there a better incoming RPG list anywhere else? :)

On PS3? Besides WKC and FF13:vs...
On Wii?

I.
don't.
think.
so.

Love.

 

Granted you have a good number of titles in your previous post, you have to admit that the PS3 line of RPG's looks good as well depending on what you want...

Currently:

Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom
Enchanted Arms
Disgaea
Eternal Sonata
Valkyria Chronicles
The Elders Scroll IV: Oblivion
Fallout 3
Demon’s Souls
White Knight Chronicles

Upcoming:

Agarest Senki Zero
Alpha Protocol
Atelier Rorona
Cross Edge
DC Universe Online
Edge of Twilight
End of Eternity
Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy Versus XIII
Shin Megami Tensei
Tales of Vesperia
The Last Remnant
The Witcher: Rise of the White Wolf
Vandal Hearts: Flames of Judgment



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