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Forums - Sales Discussion - Japan Charts Week 16 (04/13/09 - 04/19/09)

dolemit3 on 22 April 2009
leo-j said:
When are the famitsu numbers coming out, ive been waiting for ever

I think Famitsu numbers always leak, that's why it's never reliable when it's out.

 



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outlawauron on 22 April 2009
Zucas said:
outlawauron said:
Zucas said:
outlawauron said:
Hyruken said:
You have to laugh at the people trying to count a films sales as games sales.
Its a demo for crying out loud. Whats next we start to include how many times every demo was downloaded on PSN or XBLA etc?
If the film sold over 100k on its 1st day but only helped the PS3 to sell an additional 10k-20k in the whole week suggests to me that maybe not as many people bought the film because it had the demo, maybe the bought it because they have a Blu-Ray player and enjoy the film?

But that film sold nearly 400k and boosted PS3 by over 40k!

And yea how much did Dark Knight on blu-ray sell in its first week and how many blu-ray players did it sell.  That might be on a WW basis, but it makes this look quite miniscule. 

But on the larger side this was a very good boost PS3 but will more than likely be short lived.  Although Golden Week will help to offset some o the losses for a short time.  But once again this goes back to the relatively low amount of stability in Japan right now.  And we have to start thinking of things that could give one of the consoles stability.  MHG on Wii will release next week and give it a nice little jolt and then we'll have Golden weeks.  But will any of them get over the instability and start consistently outselling the competitor? 

Something needs to release and give one of those consoles that edge.  Or a price cut.  Who knows.  But for right now Japan is NOT a battleground.  Japan is an instable amount of electric jolts that amount to NOTHING.  Battlegrounds are close competitions on an a basis entirely not some weekly jolts.  If PS3 can assert itself as the stable console in the market and move on it's way to catching up to the Wii then we have a battleground.  Until then it's constant instability because of no clear top brand.  People may find it interesting, maybe even biasedly amusing, that Wii is on some of it's worst trends to date right now, but if PS3 (or 360) can't do anything about it... then who cares. 

As I've said before, one of those games that can affect that stability right now guys is Wii Sports Resort.  If there is anything releasing within the next few months that could do that... it's WSR.  I'm not saying it will, but if I were Sony and in this position where I have a true chance to turn something around, I'd make sure I do it before the sequel to the biggest cultural hit in gaming since Super Mario Bros. releases. 

So we can look at the weekly numbers in Japan and think we have an idea of how it's going to go but right now all you are seeing is weeks of instability due to the fall of the top brand.  It doesn't matter until someone reasserts itself as the top brand again.  It's not like Japan's hardware sales are close on any standard (Wii- 8 million, PS3- 3 million, 360- 1 million).  It's all about the realignment of brands.  PS3 can do it but it has to do better than what it has been doing if it wants to catch Nintendo and the Wii while its down.

But, Japan is battleground right now. Consoles are experiencing healthy compeitition. Right now.

The PS3 is about to pass the Wii's Year to Date sales. That's interesting and something that'll excite the usually stale Japanese market.

This is not a battleground.  If this is a battleground then the times in Europe before MS dropped the 360's price must have been an outright Civil War.  This is three consoles under performing with no clear sight of one regaining a dominant brand posisition.  Wii is the only one with some sort of stability but seems unstable compared to a year ago.  While PS3 and 360 heavily rely on a single game release or price drop or in this case a movie with a demo. 

Yet all it amounts to is NOTHING.  Just as Stickball said, fanboys acting as if 2-3k differences in sales a week matter when Wii has a 5 million and 7 million lead respectively with no clear stable brand leader coming out.  Sure it's great for people to compare the numbers on a weekly basis and think ah this is a close fight... BUT IT ISNT.  There's ground being gained.  Really it's like three sides battling and for the longest time one side (wii side) had constant bombardments of attacks and offensives.  Now it simply doesn't do them as often while the other two sides continue sit idly.  That's what Japan is right now for the consoles.  It's a dead zone with no one clearly wanting to move forward and attack.  Sure Wii has fallen off but not anyone else had stood up and stated I'm going to try and compete.  Really it's just Wii brought down to the other's level.

now if any you think that's a battleground then something is wrong.  Everything else is just media and fanboy explosion of weekly sales that mean nothing when it's like this. 

 

I'm not saying it's not fun to see who "wins" every week but when you look at it... is anyone really winning?  Or better put... gaining?

Look, what you're not getting it that I'm not caring about lifetime sales. I'm talking the Japanese Weekly Charts (the ones right now) are a battle between Wii and PS3. We all know the Wii has won the generation. It's just interesting to see something out of the norm and for something to challenge the Wii.



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BKK2 on 22 April 2009
peachbuggy said:
Seen lots of quotes for the Ps3 at 57k but where do these #s come from? If there is a source then why hasn't it been shown? Also what#s does this source have for the Wii? Not just the 14k+ number people have bandied around just because of the Famitsu article.

Sinobi's blog, which is reliable. He only gives numbers for new releases though, which is why we only have numbers for Pokemon and PS3 (160Gb was released this week).

http://ameblo.jp/sinobi/

 



BKK2 on 22 April 2009

Media Create:

01. [NDS] Pokemon Fushigi no Dungeon (Nintendo) 142,000 / NEW
02. [PSP] BASARA Battle Heroes (Capcom) 28,000 / 114,000
03. [NDS] Mario & Luigi RPG 3 (Nintendo) 19,000 / 541,000
04. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2 G (PSP the Best) (Capcom) 18,000 / 591,000
05. [NDS] Hitman Reborn (Takara Tommy) 17,000 / NEW
06. [PSP] Fantasy Golf Pangya Portable (Takara Tommy) 13,000 / NEW
07. [NDS] Pro Yakyuu Famista DS 2009 (Konami) 11,000 / 55,000
08. [PS3] Musou Orochi Z (KOEI) 10,000 / 205,000
09. [PSP] Mobile Suit Gundam: Senjou no Kizuna Portable (Namco Bandai) 9,000 / 144,000
10. [WII] Deca Sports 2 (Hudson) 9,000 / NEW

11. [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo)
12. [PS2] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Yakyuu 2009 (Konami)
13. [WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii (Namco Bandai)
14. [NDS] Rittai Picross 3D (Nintendo)
15. [PSP] Disgaea 2 (Nippon Ichi)
16. [NDS] Kanji Quiz DS 3 Deluxe (Rocket)
17. [PS3] Godfather II (Electronic Arts)
18. [PS3] Valkyria Chronicles (BEST) (SEGA)
19. [PS3] Resident Evil 5 (Capcom)
20. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
21. [NDS] Rhythm Tengoku Gold (Nintendo)
22. [NDS] Yugioh 5D's: Stardust Accelerator - World Championship 2009 (Konami)
23. [NDS] Wagamama Fashion: Girl's Mode (Nintendo)
24. [NDS] Pokémon Platinum (Pokémon)
25. [WII] Oboro Muramasa Youtouden (Marvelous)
26. [NDS] Tongariboushi and the 365 Days of Magic (Konami)
27. [NDS] Super Robot Taisen K (Namco Bandai)
28. [360] Godfather II (Electronic Arts)
29. [WII] Play on Wii: Pikmin 2 (Nintendo)
30. [NDS] Inazuma Eleven (Level 5)



teknohick on 22 April 2009

it dosent even look like marvelous restocked Murasama, wtf? o___o

the amount sold would be close to what was left of the first shipment.... >___>



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alfredofroylan on 22 April 2009

NDS, PSP, NDS, PSP, NDS ........ Oh Japan you never change!!!!!



BKK2 on 23 April 2009

Famitsu had Mario Kart Wii ~4k, so if Media Create is anything like that we're looking at a really slow week software wise.



BKK2 on 23 April 2009
Famitsu Sales: 04/13 - 04/19

01. [NDS] Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of the Sky (Pokemon) - 142,000 / NEW
02. [PSP] Sengoku Basara: Battle Heroes (Capcom) - 28,000 / 116,000
03. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G, PSP the Best (Capcom) - 20,000 / 624,000
04. [NDS] Mario & Luigi RPG 3!!! (Nintendo) - 18,000 / 536,000
05. [PSP] Fantasy Golf Pangya Portable (Takara Tomy) - 16,000 / NEW
06. [NDS] Katekyoo Hitman Reborn! DS Fate of Heat II - Unmei no Futari (Takara Tomy) - 15,000 / NEW
07. [NDS] Pro Yakyuu Famista DS 2009 (Bandai Namco Games) - 12,000 / 58,000
08. [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo) - 10,000 / 3,301,000
09. [PS2] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Yakyuu 2009 (Konami) - 9,500 / 117,000
10. [WII] Deca Sports 2 (Hudson) - 8,600 / NEW

11. [WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii (Bandai Namco Games) - 8,400 / 501,000
12. [PSP] Kidou Senshi Gundam: Senjou no Kizuna Portable (Bandai Namco Games) - 8,100 / 137,000
13. [PS3] Musou Orochi Z (Koei) - 8,100 / 194,000
14. [NDS] Rhythm Heaven (Nintendo) - 8,000 / 1,680,000
15. [NDS] Rittai Picross (Nintendo) - 7,400 / 108,000
16. [NDS] Magician's Quest: Mysterious Times (Konami) - 6,200 / 358,000
17. [WII] Oboro Muramasa (Marvelous Entertainment) - 5,600 / 30,000
18. [PS3] The Godfather II (Electronic Arts) - 5,000 / NEW
19. [PS3] Senjou no Valkyria, PlayStation 3 the Best (Sega) - 4,900 / 25,000
20. [PSP] Makai Senki Disgaea 2 Portable (Nippon Ichi Software) - 4,800 / 61,000
21. [NDS] Zaidanhoujin Nippon Kanji Nouryoku Kentei Kyoukai Kounin: Kanken DS3 Deluxe (Rocket Company) - 4,600 / 9,300
22. [PS3] Resident Evil 5 (Capcom) - 4,600 / 450,000
23. [NDS] Power Pro Kun Pocket 11 (Konami) - 4,500 / 222,000
24. [NDS] Super Robot Taisen K (Bandai Namco Games) - 4,500 / 196,000
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27. [NDS] Animal Crossing: Wild World (Nintendo) - 4,100 / 4,980,000
28. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo) - 4,000 / 2,219,000
29. [NDS] Meccha! Taiko no Tatsujin DS: 7-tsu no Shima no Daibouken (Bandai Namco Games) - 4,000 / 551,000
30. [NDS] Pokemon Platinum (Pokemon) - 3,900 / 2,386,000

__. [360] The Godfather II (Electronic Arts) - 2,800 / NEW
__. [PSP] 12Riven: The Psi-Climinal of Integral (CyberFront) - 2,200 / NEW
__. [PSP] Remember11: The Age of Infinity (CyberFront) - 2,000 / NEW

PS3:　57,000
NDS: 40,900*
PSP:　36,000
Wii:　15,000
360:　7,600
PS2:　4,700

*DSi:　36,000
*DSL:　4,900

http://dubai.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/ghard/1240424515/173
http://dubai.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/ghard/1240424515/176


--OkeyDokey-- on 23 April 2009

That's a pretty poor debut for a Pokemon game. Didn't the last Mystery Dungeon do like, 3 times that?



alfredofroylan on 23 April 2009

My prediction was true, Taiko is going to sell more than RE 5. Only in Japan baby, only in Japan.