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I really dont follow the %. But how is the Wii going down when I see it outselling the 360 and PS3 each week?





  
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Kantor said:
jlauro said:
Esa-Petteri said:
Is there really some grounds for that the wii would have expanded the market that much?

If you compare the leading/second/third place consoles from last 2 gens(from the launches) you will see that:

Wii has done:

3,2m better than ps2 in america
3,1m better in eu
1,5m worse in jap

=4,8m better than last gen number 1 console overall

360 has done:

3,3m better than xbox in america
4,5m better in eu
500k better in jap

=8,3m better than last gen number 2 console overall

ps3 has done:

500k better than gc in america
6,5m better in eu
200k worse in jap

=6,8m better than last gen number 3 console overall.

Raw numbers wise second and third place consoles have done better than wii and percentage wise a lot better. :O



 

If the Wii is having more sales than the PS2 did with only 50% of the market when the PS2 had 80%, then you just proved your question that the Wii really is expanding the market that much.

Did you read his post? The Wii is expanding the market the least out of the three consoles; it just so happens that the Xbox and GameCube were failures, which the PS3 and 360 are not. They will both double the sales of the Xbox, easily.

 

Yeah, his logic is flawed.  Basically 360+PS3 is going after the PS2 market, and the wii is the expansion.  Was just pointing out the market is clearly expanding without pointing out where his flaw was.



the Gamecube was not a failure
It made money



In fact Nintendo made more money on pokemon cards alone then playstation1

Ninty has always made more cash every year then the gaming devision of sony(except 2003)



jlauro said:
Kantor said:
jlauro said:
Esa-Petteri said:
Is there really some grounds for that the wii would have expanded the market that much?

If you compare the leading/second/third place consoles from last 2 gens(from the launches) you will see that:

Wii has done:

3,2m better than ps2 in america
3,1m better in eu
1,5m worse in jap

=4,8m better than last gen number 1 console overall

360 has done:

3,3m better than xbox in america
4,5m better in eu
500k better in jap

=8,3m better than last gen number 2 console overall

ps3 has done:

500k better than gc in america
6,5m better in eu
200k worse in jap

=6,8m better than last gen number 3 console overall.

Raw numbers wise second and third place consoles have done better than wii and percentage wise a lot better. :O



 

If the Wii is having more sales than the PS2 did with only 50% of the market when the PS2 had 80%, then you just proved your question that the Wii really is expanding the market that much.

Did you read his post? The Wii is expanding the market the least out of the three consoles; it just so happens that the Xbox and GameCube were failures, which the PS3 and 360 are not. They will both double the sales of the Xbox, easily.

 

Yeah, his logic is flawed.  Basically 360+PS3 is going after the PS2 market, and the wii is the expansion.  Was just pointing out the market is clearly expanding without pointing out where his flaw was.

You are not making any sense here, sorry.

Assuming that the 360 and PS3 both finish at 50 million (they will both probably be a fair bit higher), and the Wii finishes at 100 million (again, it'll do more, I'm just using simple numbers), the Wii has 50% marketshare.

Now, if the HD consoles had done 20 million each, and the Wii sells 80 million units, despite the Wii selling less, the overall market is smaller, so the Wii has 66.7% marketshare.

The first example is this gen, the second example is last gen.



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The market is different now than during the PS2 generation.

1. There is a qualitative difference in the capabilities of the machines.
2. There is a larger and more diverse market.
3. There is a global economic downturn at present.

In the past year, the Wii has not had any true major releases or price cut -- while the two other consoles which are selling have had both.

And it continues to outsell the other two consoles combined -- just as it has done since its introduction in November 2006.

Finally, it should be noted that at this stage of the PS2's life, it got it's first price cut -- a 33% percent reduction (from $300 to $200). It would not be too too surprising if the Wii saw a price reduction this fall.

Mike from Morgantown

Still wondering why people who don't own Wiis and don't like Wiis feel compelled to start threads about the sales of Wiis.

In the past ya





      


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jlauro said:
Kantor said:

Did you read his post? The Wii is expanding the market the least out of the three consoles; it just so happens that the Xbox and GameCube were failures, which the PS3 and 360 are not. They will both double the sales of the Xbox, easily.

 

Yeah, his logic is flawed.  Basically 360+PS3 is going after the PS2 market, and the wii is the expansion.  Was just pointing out the market is clearly expanding without pointing out where his flaw was.

My logic is not flawed, it is based on actual numbers. Your logic is based on assumption.

 



I'm really not convinced a $250 price tag is much of a barrier for buying a Wii, but then consoles typically do the majority of their sales below $200.

I'm also not convinced that M+ is going to cause a frenzy of sales in the hardware department either. At best, we'll see near 100% sell through at the current max production rate of 2.4m/mo.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Sports Resort bundle eventually saw attach rates similar to Wii Play, but if accessible motion controls didn't sell potential gamers on the Wii in the first place, more accurate motion controls aren't going to change any minds.

As for immediate predictions of a 3.0m/mo; that's a pretty big assumption considering that production has finally met with demand from the standpoint that they are no longer sold out in most markets.

Next big hardware sales hike will almost definitely coincide with the first price drop rather than any other factor.



Like I said the Wii will never hit 50% market share.



For all intents and purposes, the Wii already has half the current generation console sales.

While everyone on VGC is focusing on tenths of marketshare percentage points, it really doesn't make a difference even if it's 49% or 50%; we're not going to see a sudden huge shift in sales at this point in the generation.

It's too late to see similar dominance of the console market as was the case with the PS2, Xbox and GC.

But, we'll see what a $150 Wii can do when the time comes.

Nintendo still has (and will always have) the advantage in being able to produce consoles at the lowest price point due to low spec hardware and lower overall manufacturing costs while still retaining profit on each unit sold.