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ElRhodeo on 16 April 2009
BTFeather55 said:

     Because the Atari 2600, PC Engine, Genesis, SNES, PS1, and PS2 were all better systems.

Brilliant reasoning. It's all so obvious now.



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BTFeather55 on 16 April 2009
Samus Aran said:
BTFeather55 said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
If you're going to discard Nintendo's success because somebody else would've gotten around to it anyway, then why can't we discard the successes of Atari, Sega, and Sony in the same way?

And Pitfall didn't introduce item collection to platformers. I explained how on the other page in case you missed it. Pitfall took everything from Donkey Kong, including the sound cue that plays when you die. I'm assuming it was a DK tribute.

Arcades survived the game crash because they only cost 25 cents to play. Atari games cost more, and sucked.

 

 

We can't discredit Atari because without Atari there never would have been a video game industry since all attempts at making successful home video game systems prior to Atari (Magnavox;s Odyssey and Faairchild's Channel F were abject failures). And without the 2600, Nintendo wouldn't have even had the idea of making more than one game for the NES.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Atari

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_2600

 

Why are you repeating something you already said? You're starting to sound as robotic as Maxx Steele.

Atari games didn't suck. The 2600's library was much better and more well rounded than anything on the NES. In addition to Pitfall, River Raid, and Enduro that I mentioned before. There were tons of games from Imagic, Atari, more Activision games that rivalled or surpassed anything ever seen on an NES.

http://www.classicgameroom.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=57&Itemid=161

 

 

Ooh, come'on, the library of the atari is nothing compared to the NES... That's also the reason why Nintendo is still in the console business while atari isn't... U just hate Nintendo lol... You make it sound like it's easy to make gaming popular again... You make it sound like it's easy and 0 risico for Nintendo to make the NES. You sir, are an epic fail.

     What are you saying that the 10 games that Nintendo has used to sell systems from NES until today are better than the hundreds of games that made their first appearance on the 2600?  I really don't think so.  How old were you in 1984 and when did you get your first game system?  The NES' game lineup was awful compared to the 2600's and it was awful compared to the PC adventure games from Sierra On-Line and Lucas Arts that were coming out in its lifetime too.

If Metacritic had been around in Atari's days it would have as many games in the worthy of purchase category as the PS2 does while the NES wouldn't have half that number.

 



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Khuutra on 16 April 2009


Trying to downplay the NES' library is lunacy. Come on.

BTFeather55 on 16 April 2009

100's probably about all it had worth playing. Much more than the Wii. But no where near the 2600. And some of those in the video like Pirates and Maniac Mansion were much better (better graphics, etc) on pcs.



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Samus Aran on 16 April 2009

Lol, why bring the wii in this discussion? You just proved yourself that you're a nintendo hater and keep on trolling everything Nintendo related. The NES had a bigger gaming library then the atari 2600.

 

A lot of franchises that are now legendary started on the NES. Tell me one game that became legendary that started on the atari 2600?



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Khuutra on 16 April 2009
BTFeather55 said:
100's probably about all it had worth playing. Much more than the Wii. But no where near the 2600. And some of those in the video like Pirates and Maniac Mansion were much better (better graphics, etc) on pcs.

Look, I understand liking the 2600 better, that's fine, but trolling the greatest pillar of the Second Age of video game design is absurd. Even ignoring the Wii trolling, this conversation is getting ridiculous fast.



BTFeather55 on 16 April 2009
Samus Aran said:

Lol, why bring the wii in this discussion? You just proved yourself that you're a nintendo hater and keep on trolling everything Nintendo related. The NES had a bigger gaming library then the atari 2600.

 

A lot of franchises that are now legendary started on the NES. Tell me one game that became legendary that started on the atari 2600?

 

 Defender, Pitfall, Vanguard, Space Invaders, Asteroids, Missle Command, Phoenix, Battlezone, Moon Patrol, Cosmic Ark, Berzerk, Pac-Man.



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Khuutra on 16 April 2009
BTFeather55 said:
Samus Aran said:

Lol, why bring the wii in this discussion? You just proved yourself that you're a nintendo hater and keep on trolling everything Nintendo related. The NES had a bigger gaming library then the atari 2600.

 

A lot of franchises that are now legendary started on the NES. Tell me one game that became legendary that started on the atari 2600?

 Defender, Pitfall, Vanguard, Space Invaders, Asteroids, Missle Command, Phoenix, Battlezone, Moon Patrol, Cosmic Ark, Berzerk, Pac-Man.

Do you know how many of those games started in the Arcade? Let me bold the important part of that question for you again.



BTFeather55 on 16 April 2009
Khuutra said:
BTFeather55 said:
Samus Aran said:

Lol, why bring the wii in this discussion? You just proved yourself that you're a nintendo hater and keep on trolling everything Nintendo related. The NES had a bigger gaming library then the atari 2600.

 

A lot of franchises that are now legendary started on the NES. Tell me one game that became legendary that started on the atari 2600?

 Defender, Pitfall, Vanguard, Space Invaders, Asteroids, Missle Command, Phoenix, Battlezone, Moon Patrol, Cosmic Ark, Berzerk, Pac-Man.

Do you know how many of those games started in the Arcade? Let me bold the important part of that question for you again.

I only had to name one.  Others: Keystone Kapers, River Raid, Megalomania, Star Raiders, Adventure, and Yar's Revenge. 

 And of those that started in the arcades, you couldn't play any of them at home before they were on the 2600. 

 



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theRepublic on 16 April 2009
BTFeather55 said:
Khuutra said:
BTFeather55 said:
Samus Aran said:

Lol, why bring the wii in this discussion? You just proved yourself that you're a nintendo hater and keep on trolling everything Nintendo related. The NES had a bigger gaming library then the atari 2600.

 

A lot of franchises that are now legendary started on the NES. Tell me one game that became legendary that started on the atari 2600?

 Defender, Pitfall, Vanguard, Space Invaders, Asteroids, Missle Command, Phoenix, Battlezone, Moon Patrol, Cosmic Ark, Berzerk, Pac-Man.

Do you know how many of those games started in the Arcade? Let me bold the important part of that question for you again.

I only had to name one.  Others: Keystone Cops, River Raid, Megalomania, Star Raiders, and Yar's Revenge.

And of those that started in the arcades, you couldn't play any of them at home before they were on the 2600.

It was called Keystone Kapers.  Best platformer on the 2600, but still doesn't even come close to something like Super Mario Bros.

I haven't heard of any of those others.  Didn't he ask you to name legendary games?



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