Well, the thing is that the Wii with its 6th gen tech in all of the aspects that are supposed to make a great game console (superior graphics having been a big one of those since the days people traded in their 2600s for 5200s and Colecovisions and even being the case in the NES and SNES and the reason to buy a N64 -- its big selling point wasn't the controller but the fact that it was supposed to delive SGI graphics at home), is highly popular but generally only with the kids, college age women that want to work those abs, and the grandparents.

     But developers want to work on the state of the art consoles because they can accomplish so much more in all of those facets that are supposed to be the reason people buy video games  on PS3 and 360.  So, you see most of the critically acclaimed games on 360 and PS3 (see the list of 75 to 100 games on both PS3 and 360 at Metacritic and compare it to the number on the Wii, the Wii has far fewer games in the green range than either PS3 or the 360).  And due to its audience of kids, young women, and grandparents quite a lot of the more critically acclaimed games on Wii don't sell well eg. No More Heroes and Madworld while games that aren't highly critically acclaimed but appeal to the mass of people  eg. Wii Fit, Wii Sports do. 

Your really something else, these "critics and sales" dont matter to me, it does not effect me when it comes to how i feel between the DS and PSP so theres no point in me checking into it because well um... i dont care?

I know this goes over your head but, let me make it clear for you, ...I dont care what sales the most or what random people i dont know reviews stuff, all i care about is what i like when it comes to games and respect others opinions, i would respect your opinion on Nintendo and how you "seem" to like them but your so indulged in "sales" and "critics" you over look value and respecting the opinion of others.

Therefore that combo i just mentioned can only mean one thing about you as a gamer... and this is where the discussion ends completely because now... heh there really is no point in discuss'n this with ya now. take it easy then.

I agree with this. Back in the day I didn't know the N64 had "lost" untill sometime after that generation, to me it had always "won."

it's not that the Wii doesn't have good games, it's more like it has too many bad ones making the percentage looking bad, if you are not a retarded consumer and have a working brain to pick out the right games, it's just as valid of a console as any other, but you have to know your shit, and lets face it, anything above the middle average score is a game that's playable, Wii simply has too many that don't even fill that category because it's libary is too big. western devs and publishers bet wrong, they are switching now, a little late, but it's happening, there will be quality titles on all platforms more often at this point because you can't deny the sales number, denial makes you no money.

 But again on Wii most games geared towards people that want the type of epic experience type of games that have dominated gaming since SNES days (games on Wii like No More Heroes and Madworld -- 86 and 83 metacritic scores) fail to attract much consumer attention (both having sold less than 500,000 copies) while games like Wii Fit and Wii Sports (Metacritic scores of 80 and 76) have sales like no other games on any other console ever has (well over 20 million each).  So do you think that would prompt more developers to make more games like Wii Sports and Wii Fit on the Wii or more games like No More Heroes and Madworld?

If Nintendo had the same kind of hold on the market that they did on NES with the Nintendo Seal of Approval, then you would expect them to be able to force the developers to bring out all the right games on the Wii in all genres to fill out all of the spots in its game line-up, but this isn't 1987.

 But again on Wii most games geared towards people that want the type of epic experience type of games that have dominated gaming since SNES days (games on Wii like No More Heroes and Madworld -- 86 and 83 metacritic scores) fail to attract much consumer attention (both having sold less than 500,000 copies) while games like Wii Fit and Wii Sports (Metacritic scores of 80 and 76) have sales like no other games on any other console ever has (well over 20 million each).  So do you think that would prompt more developers to make more games like Wii Sports and Wii Fit on the Wii or more games like No More Heroes and Madworld?

If Nintendo had the same kind of hold on the market that they did on NES with the Nintendo Seal of Approval, then you would expect them to be able to force the developers to bring out all the right games on the Wii in all genres to fill out all of the spots in its game line-up, but this isn't 1987.

There are so many things wrong with everything you are saying.

Nintendos game limit on developers was one of the reasons developers left them.

MadWorld and No More Hereos aren't Gears of War or Resident Evil, they were produced with much more limited budgets and far less advertising.

In your previous post you said developers prefer to develop on the most powerful console, so why did they develop for PS2 over the Xbox and Gamecube?

        Maybe developers don't always like to develop on the most powerful piece of hardware; however, neither the original xbox or Gamecube were anywhere near being as powerful in comparison to PS2 as the 360 and PS3 are to the Wii (it has a clock speed far closer to the original xbox than it does to either PS3 or 360). 

     Early in its life the PS2 showed that it was a highly viable console for T to M rated games (what with GTA III coming out and selling lke gangbusters and the same with MGS2 and FFX), so it was established by its second Christmas that the PS3 could sell games with almost any kind theme of quite well which is something that the Wii has yet to demonstrate with one end of its games being severly top heavy to anything else on the console. 

        Maybe developers don't always like to develop on the most powerful piece of hardware; however, neither the original xbox or Gamecube were anywhere near being as powerful in comparison to PS2 as the 360 and PS3 are to the Wii (it has a clock speed far closer to the original xbox than it does to either PS3 or 360). 

     Early in its life the PS2 showed that it was a highly viable console for T to M rated games (what with GTA III coming out and selling lke gangbusters and the same with MGS2 and FFX), so it was established fairly on that the PS3 could sell games with almost any kind theme of quite well which is something that the Wii has yet to demonstrate with one end of its games being severly top heavy to anything else on the console. 

didn't I already cover this with late dev cycle due to more focused investment into other consoles and bull shitting PR so their stocks don't drop? it's not that the Wii is super ass weak or it sucks, it's the 3rd party taking wrong bets and it's changing slowly since they've caught on more.