I always thought those were 3rd person. Oh well, still doesn't make it "common".

SONY DOMINATION

Yeah, I edited my post right after realizing what I wrote.

Too much opinionated hate here. It doesn't matter what anyone says because it must be acknowledged that Miyamato is a game developer "god," and at the very least his classic franchises are worth the purchase of the Wii. Because of that, the Wii is hardcore because hardcore gamers once and are still playing those games. Whether or not his games are your type, there is no way around seeing this. This doesn't really mean that they are better that SONY development teams. SONY development teams have steadly increased in quality and quantitysince the days of the PSOne. There is just so much that they have to offer, period, which is reflected in the size of their combined studios. I don't see why anyone would have any problems with this which isn't taking anything away from Nintendo and to a lesser degree Microsoft. Maybe some of you are feeling the pressure of possibly missing out on SONY's offerings?

We have a thread about Sony talking about having a large number of development studios and it quickly becomes a thread about profits, sales numbers, everything you can think of that doesn't have to do with Sony talking about many games on their way.

It makes me think back to this, which I just read yesterday.

http://www.destructoid.com/schafer-gamers-care-too-much-about-sales-127692.phtml

By the way, before I get a "Well, this is a sales site what did you expect?" response. I will quickly say " I expect it to be in the "Sales Discussions" forum area.

They're in first-person or you can choose third or first-person perspective. Don't be so accurate in details, tactical shooters are pretty complex games compared to traditional popcorn shooters, so perspective is pretty much irrelevant for gameplay here.

And yes, it's common. Your point was... cover system in FPS implemented in KZ2 is a new idea. That just not true.

I just call it like I see it. If I made a mistake, my bad.

Still doesn't make you correct in saying that Sony brings no new ideas to the table.

i could have quoted a number of different posts in this thread that are just foaming at the mouth to rip sony.....sorry to chooose yours but i just didnt want to keep reading on.

Folks, this is sony....at one of their GDC presentations doing nothing other than actually and finally stating a pretty simple fact about amount of first party studios and or games. I saw nothing that tried slamming ninty or MSFT in any way or propping up Sony in terms of profitability or marketing or success. I dont understand why teh company finally says something accurate, during on eof their presentations and everyone here wants to talk about the subjective data.

Sony, for once stuck to objectivity and selling their product, simply becuase they say teh words nintendo and MSFT, even when its true people want to just get sidetracked and rip them apart.....

For gods sake they could have just said...."the ps3 is the only home console thats black with a glossy finish" and people would still be posting here about how sony sucks and loses money even though their console is the only black and glossy console.

Irrelevant; Squilliam asked if their studios were profitable or a drain, I gave him an answer.

Well, maybe I'm biased, not going to argue that =) I'm just following the common belief that Sony isn't know for it's "innovation" into gaming being compared to Ninty efforts. Usually "common beliefs" have some true inside, at least a little. That's subjective for sure just beacuse of the fact there're no measure for "innovation" regardless of what you understand by so called "innovation". I choose to believe what suit me better, like you I assume =)