Good ad but I don't care about religion at all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1gWECYYOSo
Please Watch/Share this video so it gets shown in Hollywood.
Good ad but I don't care about religion at all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1gWECYYOSo
Please Watch/Share this video so it gets shown in Hollywood.
| mrstickball said:
Churches don't exist to take people's money. |
Ever since the US government stopped funding churches and began giving taxpayers deductions for donations to charities including churches, you'd be surprised. Some churches are very tenacious in persuing "donations."
Words Of Wisdom said:
Ever since the US government stopped funding churches and began giving taxpayers deductions for donations to charities including churches, you'd be surprised. Some churches are very tenacious in persuing "donations." |
well its called donations..... cause they are donations.......?
antfromtashkent said:
well its called donations..... cause they are donations.......?
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No, he's right, some religions... just like every other group... are greedy. I can vouch for this first hand in what some might say a very odd situation.
I was walking down New street in Birmingham once, when this Buddhist approached me. He shoved incense sticks in my hand and told me they weree a gift, the he asked for a donation. |i had no money so I told him I wont give him one. He asked for his sticks back and I said they were a gift so I should keep them. Anyway, he would not let me go until I showed him my empty wallet. The next day I had to phone the council to tell them he was doing this, they agreed he had no right to be there asking for donations. It was surreal.
| thanny said: just adding to this.... God is all about people loving him and worshipping out of their own free will (except from a Calvanist perspective). If God just revealed himself clearly and openly to every person in the world including those who didnt ask, everyone would have no choice but to worship him and accept that he is real. This eliminates the 'free will' part of it... |
No it doesn't. It still doesn't mean that one would worship god simply out of knowledge that he exists alone. For one, I'd have to be convinced that I agree with his teachings.
The one thing for me, personally, that has always bugged me about the christian faith is that god is incredibly insistant that we love him, of our own free will mind you, yet if we do not we are banished to an unimaginably harsh eternity. That doesn't seem like something I'd love willingly even if I knew of its existance. Loving out of fear of consequence is not really love at all. Now, I don't mean to say that there are none out there who genuinely love your god, I'm just trying to say that this doesn't exactly cry benevolence.
So yes, I would acknowledge him as my creator, but nothing more if those were truly his teachings.
highwaystar101 said:
No, he's right, some religions... just like every other group... are greedy. I can vouch for this first hand in what some might say a very odd situation. I was walking down New street in Birmingham once, when this Buddhist approached me. He shoved incense sticks in my hand and told me they weree a gift, the he asked for a donation. |i had no money so I told him I wont give him one. He asked for his sticks back and I said they were a gift so I should keep them. Anyway, he would not let me go until I showed him my empty wallet. The next day I had to phone the council to tell them he was doing this, they agreed he had no right to be there asking for donations. It was surreal. |
yeh but thats a bit different from sitting at church on sunday and giving a donation... ofcourse some people will take advantage but thats just the world for u....
Words Of Wisdom said:
Ever since the US government stopped funding churches and began giving taxpayers deductions for donations to charities including churches, you'd be surprised. Some churches are very tenacious in persuing "donations." |
When did the US government fund churches?
Back from the dead, I'm afraid.
highwaystar101 said:
No, he's right, some religions... just like every other group... are greedy. I can vouch for this first hand in what some might say a very odd situation. I was walking down New street in Birmingham once, when this Buddhist approached me. He shoved incense sticks in my hand and told me they weree a gift, the he asked for a donation. |i had no money so I told him I wont give him one. He asked for his sticks back and I said they were a gift so I should keep them. Anyway, he would not let me go until I showed him my empty wallet. The next day I had to phone the council to tell them he was doing this, they agreed he had no right to be there asking for donations. It was surreal. |
So... Buddism is a greedy religion because one person wanted a donation?
The only "greedy" religions i've seen are called cults.
I'm pretty sure you can't even be classfied a religion in most places if you demand payment for religion.

Kasz216 said:
The only "greedy" religions i've seen are called cults. I'm pretty sure you can't even be classfied a religion in most places if you demand payment for religion. |
Several Christian denominations still charge a tithe I think.

Rath said:
Several Christian denominations still charge a tithe I think. |
No. No they don't 'charge' a tithe. I'd really like you to cite a denomination that has ever charged a tithe that was mainline, or within orthodoxy in any way.
The most extreme case I've ever heard of was a church that required it's members to tithe based on their income. That's the most extreme. Outside of that, it's 100% voluntary. There've been many preachers that have promoted tithing as a way for God's blessings, but it's very, very rarely a forceful thing.
Again, love to see actual citations on people being forced to tithe. I've been in church for 23+ years, and been to dozens, if not hundreds of church gatherings, and I've never once seen someone forced to give.
Back from the dead, I'm afraid.