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I was born like this, I never ever in my life made a choice.



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WessleWoggle said:
coolestguyever said:
TruckOSaurus said:
coolestguyever said:
People aren't born gay, they definately pick it up at some point in their life. Its up to the parents to prevent this.

Yeah of course. I for one picked it up at Walmart, it was on sale what can I say.

Don't be ridiculous, you can't "pick up" who you're attracted to. What could have possibly motivated me to pick being gay?

 

I don't know maybe one hot summer day you were sitting on a lawn chair while your pool boy Carlos was cleaning your pool wearing nothing but his Speedo, and you had never been so attracted to another man. You went up and took him in your arms..and from that moment on you knew you preferred the same sex.

 

 

 

The moment I knew I though I might be gay is when I saw two sexy boys kissing online, and instead of being discusted by it like usual, I found it attractive... When I was a little kid and saw gay men kissing, it was a gross moment.

Before that, I was straight, I was also quite a homphobe. I didn't have any problem with gay men doing what they did, but personally I did not like them, I used the word fag as an insult, and stuff like that..

Do you think society made me gay, or I would have turned out gay anyways? Society, especially grade school, made me a straight homophobe. But I think I was justing tricking myself, denying the fact that I was bi.

I really knew I was bisexual when I thought about the reason I like women. There is none. In fact I don't even like female boobs. I only ever liked girls because it was culturally acceptable. I'm attracted to humans in general, not just men or women... But I do like men more because they're just so sexy.

lol, that sounds so hilarious.

At what age did u find that stuff out? 

I like Bacon said:
I was born like this, I never ever in my life made a choice.

 

 U mean gay?



coolestguyever said:
TruckOSaurus said:
coolestguyever said:
People aren't born gay, they definately pick it up at some point in their life. Its up to the parents to prevent this.

Yeah of course. I for one picked it up at Walmart, it was on sale what can I say.

Don't be ridiculous, you can't "pick up" who you're attracted to. What could have possibly motivated me to pick being gay?

 

I don't know maybe one hot summer day you were sitting on a lawn chair while your pool boy Carlos was cleaning your pool wearing nothing but his Speedo, and you had never been so attracted to another man. You went up and took him in your arms..and from that moment on you knew you preferred the same sex.

 

You don't get it do you? Or are you just playing dumb? If I were straight there would never be a guy sexy enough to turn me on. He would only be just another dude.

 



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it's a fascinating subject this gay thing.

Going back to when I was 11, I never really saw sexuality as being with a man or woman. I never thought about it. in fact it was disgusting to me to think about sex. But at 12, all of sudden, I started getting urges to see girls naked and wanting to touch them. It was quite weird and frankly i didn't know where it was coming from. So, my point is at no time in my life did I make a choice who to be attracted to, it was natural, it come by it self. Why can't people realize it's the same for gay people too. We spent hundreds of years before people realized Black people are just as smart and humans as anybody, it's weird when I see black people like me discriminating against gays just as they were.



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People were getting married before Judaism. They were getting married in Egypt, Asia, and the Native Americas. Marriage was created as a way to pass property from the older men in the community to the younger men in the community, and make peace treaties between families and tribes and kingdoms or whatever. Men owned the women in most of the western world, and the whole concept of romantic marriage is very recent.

Even ancient Greece, where most men over 30 had sex with men under 30, had marriages to create family units so they could raise their children into responsible citizens.



Slimebeast said:
WessleWoggle said:
coolestguyever said:
TruckOSaurus said:
coolestguyever said:
People aren't born gay, they definately pick it up at some point in their life. Its up to the parents to prevent this.

Yeah of course. I for one picked it up at Walmart, it was on sale what can I say.

Don't be ridiculous, you can't "pick up" who you're attracted to. What could have possibly motivated me to pick being gay?

 

I don't know maybe one hot summer day you were sitting on a lawn chair while your pool boy Carlos was cleaning your pool wearing nothing but his Speedo, and you had never been so attracted to another man. You went up and took him in your arms..and from that moment on you knew you preferred the same sex.

 

 

 

The moment I knew I though I might be gay is when I saw two sexy boys kissing online, and instead of being discusted by it like usual, I found it attractive... When I was a little kid and saw gay men kissing, it was a gross moment.

Before that, I was straight, I was also quite a homphobe. I didn't have any problem with gay men doing what they did, but personally I did not like them, I used the word fag as an insult, and stuff like that..

Do you think society made me gay, or I would have turned out gay anyways? Society, especially grade school, made me a straight homophobe. But I think I was justing tricking myself, denying the fact that I was bi.

I really knew I was bisexual when I thought about the reason I like women. There is none. In fact I don't even like female boobs. I only ever liked girls because it was culturally acceptable. I'm attracted to humans in general, not just men or women... But I do like men more because they're just so sexy.

lol, that sounds so hilarious.

At what age did u find that stuff out? 

I like Bacon said:
I was born like this, I never ever in my life made a choice.

 

 U mean gay?

I guess so 

 



Slimebeast said:
WessleWoggle said:
coolestguyever said:
TruckOSaurus said:
coolestguyever said:
People aren't born gay, they definately pick it up at some point in their life. Its up to the parents to prevent this.

Yeah of course. I for one picked it up at Walmart, it was on sale what can I say.

Don't be ridiculous, you can't "pick up" who you're attracted to. What could have possibly motivated me to pick being gay?

 

I don't know maybe one hot summer day you were sitting on a lawn chair while your pool boy Carlos was cleaning your pool wearing nothing but his Speedo, and you had never been so attracted to another man. You went up and took him in your arms..and from that moment on you knew you preferred the same sex.

 

 

 

The moment I knew I though I might be gay is when I saw two sexy boys kissing online, and instead of being discusted by it like usual, I found it attractive... When I was a little kid and saw gay men kissing, it was a gross moment.

Before that, I was straight, I was also quite a homphobe. I didn't have any problem with gay men doing what they did, but personally I did not like them, I used the word fag as an insult, and stuff like that..

Do you think society made me gay, or I would have turned out gay anyways? Society, especially grade school, made me a straight homophobe. But I think I was justing tricking myself, denying the fact that I was bi.

I really knew I was bisexual when I thought about the reason I like women. There is none. In fact I don't even like female boobs. I only ever liked girls because it was culturally acceptable. I'm attracted to humans in general, not just men or women... But I do like men more because they're just so sexy.

lol, that sounds so hilarious.

At what age did u find that stuff out?

 

When I was a little kid, like 4-11, I liked girls, and thought homosexuality was gross. I didn't really think about my orientation from 12-14, even though I did think about men while I masturbated sometimes, but I didn't just think about 1 thing while I masturbated, so a lot of weird things popped into my head.

I found out I was bi/gay when I was 15, and actual visual imagery of men kissing turned me on. I still think ugly men kissing is gross though, but ugly people of any gender kissing is gross to me. But to be fair pleasuring myself with a buttplug came before I found out I was gay. Maybe knowing how good it felt to have something in my anus felt made me open to the idea... Now I can't get the idea out of my head, as having a sexual and/or emotional relationship with another man sounds fun and satisfying.

 



psrock said:
it's a fascinating subject this gay thing.

Going back to when I was 11, I never really saw sexuality as being with a man or woman. I never thought about it. in fact it was disgusting to me to think about sex. But at 12, all of sudden, I started getting urges to see girls naked and wanting to touch them. It was quite weird and frankly i didn't know where it was coming from. So, my point is at no time in my life did I make a choice who to be attracted to, it was natural, it come by it self. Why can't people realize it's the same for gay people too. We spent hundreds of years before people realized Black people are just as smart and humans as anybody, it's weird when I see black people like me discriminating against gays just as they were.

See, this guy knows how to relate. :)

 



mrstickball said:
WessleWoggle said:
TheRealMafoo said:
WessleWoggle said:
mrstickball said:
The issue is that we've blurred the lines between what marriage is (a union between a man and a woman, ordained by God) and a civil union (co-habitation with legal rights).

 

The issue is, marriage is not for you or religion to define.

It's for the government to define, and they shouldn't define it religiously.

What? That's like saying:

The issue is, god is not for you or religion to define.

It's for the government to define, and they shouldn't define it religiously.



Marriage is a product of religion. The problem is government recognizing marriage as anything, not that religion shouldn't define it.

God is for the individual to define, not the government. Your parody of my statement makes no sense.

Marriage is not the product of religion. Where do you get this from? Study some tribal people and you'll plainly see marriage comes about because they don't want men to fuck women like wild animals. They want men to care for a women they fuck, and care for the children that come from it. That's where marriage comes from.

The idea of a sacremental, special, union between 2 people is from religion. Since the dawn of Judiaism some ~3,000 years ago, marriage was institutionalized as a specific ritual with specific contexts. That's our basis the current definition of marriage. That's why we say if you want to do Civil unions, do civil unions. But the current context of marriage has been defined by religion. Like it or not, that's how it's been defined.

But if you want to open the doors for a civil union to be between 2 of anything for legal/financial benefits, feel free to argue that in your local country. I just don't like the idea of equating gay marriage (which is an absolute rarity in your gay culture, and you know it) and normal marriage which has is a far different beast.

Sorry, I was going by marriage in terms of human nature not terms of history. People who are away from all that cultural religious bullshit still get married, that was my point. The current context of marriage has to do with the law and the state, not religion...

 

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Wow, you're putting a lot on me. I don't know anything about gay culture, nor do I care. I don't really want to get married, but I would like someone that I could spend my life with. Someone to fuck with, someone to grow old with, someone to love, all that stuff. What's so different about staight and gay marriage? Two people who get together and want to have legal benefits.