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I agree with his idea that Wii has changed the future of games. That the next gen will be about interface not graphics and OnLine can't move with that so it's already dated itself.

However I disagree people won't accept a rental model. That's stupid IMO because people already have with movie services and netflix. Now if they have to pay a subscription fee and a rental fee, that might prove problematic but we don't know yet.

Frankly most games now can be beaten in a day. So sure, why not pay $5 (or whatever) play through the game and then pay $5 tomorrow for a totally different game. Suddenly $70 gets you 14 games not 1.



 

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@IllegalPaladin

I'm simply going off his "people dont like to pay subscription fee's"

people dont like to pay for anything. but they do, whether they like it or not, millions do.

and their fine with it... just like the PS3's Home VS Xbox360's Live arguement... People would rather pay for a quality service then get a crap free one (I personally enjoy Home, but im just going off what a majority of people say)



MattAAron said:
and just because you dont like your Live subscription fee, doesn't mean everyone else doesn't

Whereas it's ok for you to talk for all warcraft and live subscribers 

 Sorry, I don't really wanna get into a semantics argument, but that comment came across as a bit hypocritical especially when I made it obvious I was only refering to myself in my post.



Yes it was a bad comedy. This idea dont have a chance in at least 15 years.

It's not just that there is a psychological barrier (because ppl want to own their hardware and games) and a competition barrier (from Nintendo, Sony, MS etc) but it's also technically impossible. Games will not be streamed through a movie.

 

Many commentators like Dean Tahashi made fools out of theirselves for being positive on this OnLine.



@drpunk, my mistake :/



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Pretty good article. Lost of gmratickel earers thou.



- "If you have the heart of a true winner, you can always get more pissed off than some other asshole."

"Fifth, OnLive lies by saying you can play every game on it. Not true. You cannot play the Wii games and many PC games. For their controller, all I see is a standard controller that you would see for the Xbox 360 or PS3. I don’t see a motion controller. I don’t see a mouse and keyboard (but let’s assume they can be plugged in or used via any computer)."


I think sean malstram is just being a vagina because OnLive doesn't think it needs wii games
I mean, to take things further....... would be trolling.



And that's the only thing I need is *this*. I don't need this or this. Just this PS4... And this gaming PC. - The PS4 and the Gaming PC and that's all I need... And this Xbox 360. - The PS4, the Gaming PC, and the Xbox 360, and that's all I need... And these PS3's. - The PS4, and these PS3's, and the Gaming PC, and the Xbox 360... And this Nintendo DS. - The PS4, this Xbox 360, and the Gaming PC, and the PS3's, and that's all *I* need. And that's *all* I need too. I don't need one other thing, not one... I need this. - The Gaming PC and PS4, and Xbox 360, and thePS3's . Well what are you looking at? What do you think I'm some kind of a jerk or something! - And this. That's all I need.

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MattAAron said:
@IllegalPaladin

I'm simply going off his "people dont like to pay subscription fee's"

people dont like to pay for anything. but they do, whether they like it or not, millions do.

and their fine with it... just like the PS3's Home VS Xbox360's Live arguement... People would rather pay for a quality service then get a crap free one (I personally enjoy Home, but im just going off what a majority of people say)

 

I'm pretty sure not many people like Home regardless of what other network system they like. It's usually PSN and not Home that people compare with Xbox Live.

 



I think he had some really good points. It's too bad that nowadays there are so many people hating Malstrom for no reason.



I believe i read it when it was just posted.

In the sense that the developement was started 7 years ago, the consept isn't that stupid, since it makes a lot of sense in the context of conventional wisdom.
I'm pretty sure that the guys at OnLive have noticed them getting disrupted by Nintendo. If the best selling system today has hardware, that wouldn't have been bleeding edge even at the time OnLive developement was started, it kind of makes the whole idea look a little obsolete.
I think that OnLive would have used a few more years in making the service better, but since it looks like the need for very expensive gaming hardware is going to go down, they want to launch the service while there still are people who are interested in it.

The publishers who are supporting the service, are the ones that jump to every opportunity there is, because they also are the ones with low profit margins (and, they also know that the cost of games is going up for them). Then, they run into problems if they get the money based on playtime, since it forces to have good games in the service. If a publisher gets 30€ per boxed game, they get the 30€ when someone buys the game, no matter how crappy it is, but if a service like OnLive pays the publishers by basing the fee to playtime, the crappy games don't get playtime and publishers won't get payd, which leads to less games on the service, when the number of games in the service is important for its success.

As for not having, for example, Wii games on the service, it's pretty spot on, since people want to play the games available. If there are no interesting games, there is no interesting service.



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