Yea because niche stylized games sell so well on PS360.

It should have!  360 sells tons of shooters, so if they wanted to sell an additional couple million units of the game, and didn't mind the game not looking how it does, then yes, by all means, the game should have been multi-plat.

@ Dark Chaos

Should MGS4 have been multi-plat?  Yes, it would have sold more.  Bigger audience, etc.  But the thing about that is that the fanbase is mostly PS fans, so I'm not too sure about how well it would have sold on the 360, but I'm sure that altogether it would have shipped more than 4.5 mil if it was out to double the userbase. 

Why is such offense taken to what I said?  And why did everyone have to run to KZ2 and MGS4?  I don't give two flying fucks if either of the games were exclusive or on sixty-three platforms.  Devs are falling left and right, and they need to make their money the best way that they know how.  As long as both of them were on the PS3, I wouldn't care what other platforms they were on.  What that is is a sorry attempt at trying to paint my argument as a fanboy argument when it's thee truth.  Higher install base = more sales.  PS360 install base > Wii install base, and we can truly see that the hardcore demographic on PS360 > Hardcore demographic on the Wii.  It's all in the numbers. 

It's a shame that Wii fans can not take it when a game tanks on their platform, and must resort to attacks on other platforms, rather than notice that The Wii is not, and never will be the platform where every game needs to go.  It's not the PS2. 

I believe that the only exclusive games that should ever exist are those from first-party, and Gears and MGS4 because they mean so much, and are closely tied to their respective user-bases. Madworld should not have been a Wii only game because, as many had predicted, the game bomba-ed.  Had this been on the PS3 or 360, the game would have sold much better because the hardcore userbase is there.

Well, obviously they don't sell that well on the Wii *cough* NMH *cough* so one would think that Sega would try their luck on the PS360 instead...

Yeah cause 400k (VGC) is awesome *rolls eyes*

Breaking even isn't good enough.  Do you watch the news?  The econonmy is horrible.  People need to make profit, not break even.  What's the point of funding something just to sell 'well' or break even?  Games need to sell good, great, excellent.  Doing 'good' is really doing 'bad' when companies are laying people off left and right.

^ So you're saying NMH didn't make a profit and only broke even? News to me... link?

And I'd say 400k for a budget game with no marketing is damn good.

Why would Suda make another No More Heroes game if it didn't make money? Why would they make another game if they didn't seriously think the sequel has potential to make even more money?

Like you said, they wouldn't fund it to sell "well" or break even. They'd fund a sequel because the first made a good amount of profit. 400k sold, 500k shipped was obviously enough for Suda to make another game in a downturned economy.

It's fun to cherry pick a title without really knowing much about it (or refusing to know) NMH is a title with very low budget (just look at the graphics) and small dev. team. So in this case yes selling 400k is a very good result that made a nice profit for a publisher and development team hence we are getting a sequel and Suda even threw a party to celebrate NMH success, but no its not enough for PS3 fan in order to stop bashing the Wii. 

Sad thing is that companies that are laying people off are usually the ones that over invested in HD twins, PS3 especially... (oh thats a little come back from my side

Anyone have seen the budget wii list?

-		26			NO MORE HEROES	GRASSHOPPER MANUFACTURE	RISING STAR GAMES	RISING STAR GAMES
-		27			THE HOUSE OF THE DEAD 2 & 3 RETURN	SEGA	SEGA	SEGA

This thread is full of painage.

PES 2008 is well over .8 million and will climb a little more. It isn't that far behind the 360 version. This one will get more advertising over Easter and will probably get close to the 2008 version or even outsell it in the end I reckon. We'll see.

Mad World will tick along and make a profit.