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Cueil on 29 March 2009

It'd be a rule bummer if KZ2 didn't pass it.... a MP only game (with bots for "sp")shouldn't be able to outsell a good SP game like KZ2



 
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Cueil on 29 March 2009

up the ante... KZ2 wont have the first week halo 3 numbers by the time it hits the launch day of Halo 3.... next year haha... I keed... but this is pretty risky bet on the OP



 
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Seece on 30 March 2009
nen-suer said:
Ur bet should be between Halo Wars & Killzone 2

since both came out on almost the same time

what ur saying is REALLY un fair

It would be stupid to make a bet I know I'm going to lose, the is 100% fair. The terms were laid out and there is a chance Killzone 2 can overtake and a chance Left 4 Dead stays ahead ... honestly .. think about what you're saying before you say "its unfair"

 



 

Max King of the Wild on 31 March 2009
seece said:
Max King of the Wild said:
^ your totally right ut is unfair. its unfair for seece when the adjustment comes

Just like all your other anti 360 propagander you fit whatever you're given to suit your needs. Wish away Max but no adjustment are coming and I am going to win this.

 


/ points in the direction of the last game i said was overtracked



Max King of the Wild on 31 March 2009
eNamrah said:
forevercloud3000 said:
seece said:

At the end of the year Left 4 Dead will still be above Killzone 2 in sales.

 

Currently:

 

Left 4 Dead - 2.03 Million

Killzone 2 - 1.24 Million

 

If by the end of the year Left 4 Dead has higher sales than Killzone 2 I win, if Killzone 2 has higher sales than Left 4 Dead you win :)

Edit - Oh yeah the usual prize, control of losers signature for a month.

 

first, this bet is extremely unfair for many reasons. The most prominent is that L4D had special deals going on at Gamestop(main US retailer) that had the game drop to like 20 bucks for a short period of time. That is when that game started selling so well. Killzone 2 will probably still be 60bucks new by the end of the year, just like Uncharted and Heavenly Sword.

 

forevercloud3000, I know your profile says you work at gamestop but when have they had the 360 version on sale for $20 bucks? I've seen them advertise it on their site for $49.99 on one or two occasions but never lower. Hell, they're still selling it for $54.99 used. Kind of stupid to sell it for $20 when they currently offer you $24 credit to trade it in.

And Max, L4D's NA numbers have been getting adjusted up by Brett. They're currently in line with NPD so if you think VGC is overtracking then NPD must be as well.


i go by official numbers and not vgc or npd. i actually questioned those last batch of npd numbers. look at the official numbers 2.5 million shipped ww pc+360. i dont see a 15 to 85 ratio even close to realistic for NA to EU. so npd may very well have overtracked. we know for certain it isnt undertracked in EU since any upwards adjustment there would put it past shipments. and a 15 to 85 ratio for pc to 360 isnt realistic either. it wasnt even that big for the orange box something that would heavily favor ps360 versions



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Seece on 31 March 2009
Max King of the Wild said:
eNamrah said:
forevercloud3000 said:
seece said:

At the end of the year Left 4 Dead will still be above Killzone 2 in sales.

 

Currently:

 

Left 4 Dead - 2.03 Million

Killzone 2 - 1.24 Million

 

If by the end of the year Left 4 Dead has higher sales than Killzone 2 I win, if Killzone 2 has higher sales than Left 4 Dead you win :)

Edit - Oh yeah the usual prize, control of losers signature for a month.

 

first, this bet is extremely unfair for many reasons. The most prominent is that L4D had special deals going on at Gamestop(main US retailer) that had the game drop to like 20 bucks for a short period of time. That is when that game started selling so well. Killzone 2 will probably still be 60bucks new by the end of the year, just like Uncharted and Heavenly Sword.

 

forevercloud3000, I know your profile says you work at gamestop but when have they had the 360 version on sale for $20 bucks? I've seen them advertise it on their site for $49.99 on one or two occasions but never lower. Hell, they're still selling it for $54.99 used. Kind of stupid to sell it for $20 when they currently offer you $24 credit to trade it in.

And Max, L4D's NA numbers have been getting adjusted up by Brett. They're currently in line with NPD so if you think VGC is overtracking then NPD must be as well.

i go by official numbers and not vgc or npd. i actually questioned those last batch of npd numbers. look at the official numbers 2.5 million shipped ww pc+360. i dont see a 15 to 85 ratio even close to realistic for NA to EU. so npd may very well have overtracked. we know for certain it isnt undertracked in EU since any upwards adjustment there would put it past shipments

Its very possible the majority of PC buyers bought it off steam and not retail. Again that doesn't fit your needs though ...

 



 

Max King of the Wild on 31 March 2009

^ orange box doesnt support that theory



Seece on 31 March 2009
Max King of the Wild said:
^ orange box doesnt support that theory

What theory? honestly max I'm not even going to argue with you, we all remember your main account pooperscooper ... how you expect people to take your arguements seriously after the tripe you posted before is beyond me.

 



 

Max King of the Wild on 31 March 2009

^ lol you have no arguement thats why you wont. its because you dont want to its because you cant.



Seece on 31 March 2009
Max King of the Wild said:
^ lol you have no arguement thats why you wont. its because you dont want to its because you cant.

Well first explain the "theory"?

 

I can argue with you but a) its you so its pointless and b) I have no idea what we're even arguing about now?