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theRepublic on 24 March 2009
NanakiXI said:
Isn't this how the industry has always been. The "hardcore" games as they call it have always been hit or miss. Why should this generation be any different.

Game Studio A makes game A and sells 3 million copies. Game Studio A sees the success of game A and then makes game B that cost 2-3 times more and struggles to sell even 1/3 of game A. Game Studio A makes a few decent games (game C, D, E, F) that makes slight profit. Game studio A then grows some balls and makes game G which has the same result as game B. Game Studio falls in Epic debt and makes game H but is too late to be saved even with great sales. Game Studio B then laughs at Midway... I mean Game Studio A.

It is the way of the world. Even video games are not impervious to failing.

You are absolutely right that this industry has been very "hit" driven.  The problem right now is that developers and publishers have let the budgets balloon so large, that misses are hurting a lot more than they used to hurt.  In some cases, a single miss has brought down a developer.



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aderoche on 24 March 2009

Subsidising core games is not the answer. They need to be profitable on their own otherwise they are just a drain on the industry. Companies like Value seem to know how to make games that are profitable, either that or have just been lucky.

There is simply more money being spent on core games then is returned at retail. Either make the same number of games for less money or make less games for the same money. Something has to change.



Dgc1808 on 25 March 2009

Shit...

How much longer until things pick up??? Pretty soon there won't be a single publisher that isn't taking a huge lose somewhere...



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Undying on 25 March 2009
Khuutra said:
thekitchensink said:
liquidninja said:

@Undying

This has been bothering me for a while but your avatar looks like a cross between the lead singer of Creed and Dil from The Crying Game.

It's from Infinite Undiscovery.

I think that's Lost Odyssey.

 

Bingo.

 

Kinda goes with my user name as well, because Kaim is immortal.




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theRepublic on 25 March 2009
aderoche said:

Subsidising core games is not the answer. They need to be profitable on their own otherwise they are just a drain on the industry. Companies like Value seem to know how to make games that are profitable, either that or have just been lucky.

There is simply more money being spent on core games then is returned at retail. Either make the same number of games for less money or make less games for the same money. Something has to change.

You've got the right idea, but that second solution would concentrate risk.  Spreading out risk is generally considered safer.



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Pristine20 on 25 March 2009
Undying said:
Video Games 1972-2009


RIP

 

^this IMO. Gaming as we know it is about to metamorphose



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

Khuutra on 25 March 2009
Pristine20 said:
Undying said:
Video Games 1972-2009


RIP

^this IMO. Gaming as we know it is about to metamorphose

If that's the case then it's actually 1983-2006.

Welcome to the third generation. Please, fasten your seatbelt and keep your arms and legs inside the vehicle at all times.



Pristine20 on 25 March 2009
Khuutra said:
Pristine20 said:
Undying said:
Video Games 1972-2009


RIP

^this IMO. Gaming as we know it is about to metamorphose

If that's the case then it's actually 1983-2006.

Welcome to the third generation. Please, fasten your seatbelt and keep your arms and legs inside the vehicle at all times.

 

why 2006?



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

Khuutra on 25 March 2009
Pristine20 said:
Khuutra said:
Pristine20 said:
Undying said:
Video Games 1972-2009


RIP

^this IMO. Gaming as we know it is about to metamorphose

If that's the case then it's actually 1983-2006.

Welcome to the third generation. Please, fasten your seatbelt and keep your arms and legs inside the vehicle at all times.

why 2006?

I blame Wii Sports.



sungson on 25 March 2009

he has a point. publishers will take less risk right now with the economy being in really bad shape. if a game that took year or 2 to make and fails to make money the company could be a risk if it is not backed by a bigger company like nintendo, sony, microsoft, ea and what have u. that is why i am thinking that we are going to see a lot more sequels of games that are well known and did well because of brand recog. games like mirrors edge will fade to black.