I just curious because it seems that GTTV and people on this site alike seem to think it's the only recent hardcore game on Wii..

I've grown to believe that Hardcore gamers are fickle.. and they aknowledge games with 80+ scores on Metacritic and Gamerankings.  Honestly.. Why isn't Deadly Creatures or House of the Dead: Overkill in this category. >:(

Metroid Prime 3 was one of the very few Hardcore AAA games for Wii. Deadly Creatures and House of the Dead are great, but not of the same calibur. I'd say Madworld is almost as good as Metroid.

Because it's a fairly well-known title still a chance to fail. If/when it doesn't expect there to be another "only recent hardcore game for the Wii" to show up.

People conveniently ignore many hardcore games so they can keep up the "no hardcore games on Wii" mantra.

People are constantly looking for ammunition to troll Wii. It's easier to exonerate games via goalpost moving (i.e. "RE is a strong brand", "1st party doesn't count") in order to "prove" their point. I think this is one reason why MadWorld is suddenly the litmus test for how a hardcore game will perform on the Wii despite the many other hardcore games that came out before it and did quite well.

I want HOTD Overkill and Deadly Creatures way more than I want Madworld (don't really want that game at all, really).

I'd say realistically CODWaW is the hardcore title of note on Wii.

Let's face it, Deadly Creature, MadWorld, Mushroom Men, No More Heros, etc. are all decidedly niche. They would never even exist on HD console because it would be too big a gamble.

Although they are not only new IPs but they are either heavily stylized or out of the norm. Not exactly big ticket titles. Period.

CoDWaW is a big franchise, great game, fantastic online, well reviewed game that uses Wii controls effectively. IT and currently only IT should be the determination of 'core' titles on Wii. And since it's sold 1m units the obvious answer is YES core titles can sell on Wii. But not nearly as well as they do on HD systems.

Because people who should be in the know seem to know very little about the Wii.

Also, as has been stated, it gives people a chance to be critical of the Wii -- which they also enjoy.

Mike from Morgantown

Feel free to comment in http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=65197&page=1 which is related to this topic.

I agree with Kenology. Its goalpost moving. Especially fun in this case because its a Clover game, bound to not do that well in the standard of huge games. It'll do well for itself, certainly.

You do know that more core games are released by third parties on the HD twins than the Wii. More importanntly, third parties continue to release core games for the HD twins which continues to build and support that audience. While core titles by third parties are an afterthought and are released so infrenquently that the Wii audience is left underserved and wanting. If third parties were to change and support the Wii with core titles like the HD twins then those games would sell at a similar rate.

I think you summed it up pretty accurately right there. I think the term hardcore gamer should be replaced with 'Gamer Snob'.