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badgenome on 22 March 2009
Impulsivity said:
saying we sell the most in one region or one other tiny submarket is pretty much meaningless. In fact selling the most in America only is extra meaningless considering a sale in America is worth only about 60-70% a sale in Europe or Japan due to the weak (and weakening now that we put trillions of printed money into the economy) dollar.

EA and others make more on the PS3 despite selling slightly fewer games then on the 360 because the PS3 sales are concentrated in Europe and Japan where games sell for more absolute dollars (due to exchange rate).

Microsoft is concentrating on one relatively meaningless rubric here, what matters is Worldwide sales. They are picking and choosing for PR purposed just like when they reported they were the number one US console at E3 when that very week the Wii was passing up the 360 up (and never looking back). However they slice it there is no way that FFXIII is going to sell more on the 360 WW even with a Japan release (just like RE5 didn't, PS3 is more then 200k ahead atm). Also where the PS3 is strongest the games are worth the most profit, so that makes it doubly stupid for them to concentrate on the least profitable of the 3 markets to crow about. Most publishers would almost certainly rather have the game sell better OUTSIDE the US then in it.

Well, they talked about SF4 and RE5 selling more on the 360 than the PS3, and this only happened in America. So it's pretty bleeding obvious which region they were talking about.

And do you have to write a novel length post where a line or two would suffice, every single time?



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Kos-mos on 22 March 2009
badgenome said:
Kos-mos said:
FaRmLaNd said:
I'm sorry but did you just say GTA isn't nearly as popular as Final Fantasy? If you mean in Japan then fine but world wide thats simply not true.

Check sales data of all Final Fantasy games and all gta games then.

 

There are a lot more Final Fantasy games, so comparing total sales is not really the way to go about it. The best selling GTAs simply annihilate the best selling Final Fantasies.

 

 And why are there more games? Think before answering.



badgenome on 22 March 2009
Kos-mos said:
badgenome said:
Kos-mos said:
FaRmLaNd said:
I'm sorry but did you just say GTA isn't nearly as popular as Final Fantasy? If you mean in Japan then fine but world wide thats simply not true.

Check sales data of all Final Fantasy games and all gta games then.

 

There are a lot more Final Fantasy games, so comparing total sales is not really the way to go about it. The best selling GTAs simply annihilate the best selling Final Fantasies.

 

 And why are there more games? Think before answering.

Because it's an older series with a shitload of spin-offs.



Impulsivity on 22 March 2009
badgenome said:
Impulsivity said:
saying we sell the most in one region or one other tiny submarket is pretty much meaningless. In fact selling the most in America only is extra meaningless considering a sale in America is worth only about 60-70% a sale in Europe or Japan due to the weak (and weakening now that we put trillions of printed money into the economy) dollar.

EA and others make more on the PS3 despite selling slightly fewer games then on the 360 because the PS3 sales are concentrated in Europe and Japan where games sell for more absolute dollars (due to exchange rate).

Microsoft is concentrating on one relatively meaningless rubric here, what matters is Worldwide sales. They are picking and choosing for PR purposed just like when they reported they were the number one US console at E3 when that very week the Wii was passing up the 360 up (and never looking back). However they slice it there is no way that FFXIII is going to sell more on the 360 WW even with a Japan release (just like RE5 didn't, PS3 is more then 200k ahead atm). Also where the PS3 is strongest the games are worth the most profit, so that makes it doubly stupid for them to concentrate on the least profitable of the 3 markets to crow about. Most publishers would almost certainly rather have the game sell better OUTSIDE the US then in it.

Well, they talked about SF4 and RE5 selling more on the 360 than the PS3, and this only happened in America. So it's pretty bleeding obvious which region they were talking about.

And do you have to write a novel length post where a line or two would suffice, every single time?

Yes I do.

 

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frictionini on 22 March 2009

I think NA sales will be close between PS3 and 360, so NO. I have a feeling that Japan sales might even eat 360 sales WW.



 

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Kos-mos on 22 March 2009
badgenome said:
Kos-mos said:
badgenome said:
Kos-mos said:
FaRmLaNd said:
I'm sorry but did you just say GTA isn't nearly as popular as Final Fantasy? If you mean in Japan then fine but world wide thats simply not true.

Check sales data of all Final Fantasy games and all gta games then.

 

There are a lot more Final Fantasy games, so comparing total sales is not really the way to go about it. The best selling GTAs simply annihilate the best selling Final Fantasies.

 

 And why are there more games? Think before answering.

Because it's an older series with a shitload of spin-offs.

 

 And not because it`s populare? Ok. Ye have figured it out. Good boy, boy.



Acevil on 22 March 2009

@Kos-Mos

I'm a rpg fan but saying final fantasy is more popular than grand theft auto is pretty silly. Grand Theft Auto is a series that sells in more than 10 million for every mainline title now. The series has a lot of bad press, which in the video game world.... makes it that much popular!



 

badgenome on 22 March 2009
Kos-mos said:
badgenome said:
Kos-mos said:
badgenome said:
Kos-mos said:
FaRmLaNd said:
I'm sorry but did you just say GTA isn't nearly as popular as Final Fantasy? If you mean in Japan then fine but world wide thats simply not true.

Check sales data of all Final Fantasy games and all gta games then.

 

There are a lot more Final Fantasy games, so comparing total sales is not really the way to go about it. The best selling GTAs simply annihilate the best selling Final Fantasies.

 

 And why are there more games? Think before answering.

Because it's an older series with a shitload of spin-offs.

 

 And not because it`s populare? Ok. Ye have figured it out. Good boy, boy.

Nobody said it isn't popular. Only that it's not as popular as Grand Theft Auto, which is absolutely true. Reading comprehension FTW.



gergroy on 22 March 2009
Kos-mos said:
gergroy said:
Megadude said:
Ok. This game is coming out q4 09 in Japan aright? SE has said that after that they begin translating the game to English. Then AFTER the game has been translated they will BEGIN to port the game over to 360. Translation ususally takes 6 months to a year. How long will it take to port? I dunno we haven't seen a game this huge get ported from PS3 to 360 this gen.

The game is going to bang out 2-5 million copies in Japan before it will ever be played on a Microsoft console. The game will not sell 2 to1 in the US. More like 60/40 as GTA4 and SF4 did.

Sell more on 360? Not a chance in hell.

 

 Dude, GTA4 did sell 2 to 1 in the us.  Xbox 360 sales are 4.36 mil and ps3 sells are 2.37... that is pretty close to 2 to 1 my friend and nowhere close to 60/40.  I really don't understand how you think it won't sell more on the 360.  My only guess is you are smoking something quite amazing... or living in denial:)

Hey "dude". Haha.

Here`s your statement:

"Hey DUDE, gta sold 2 to 1 on 360 vs. ps3.  Then of course it will be the same with Final Fantasy. Of course. Of course? Please, of course...."

It`s about WHEN it`s released on the two consoles, and gta isn`t nearly as popular as Final Fantasy. I really don`t understand how you can compare those games.

 

 

 

lol, I know GTA isn't as big (at least as a franchise) but I was just correcting megadude.  I wasn't trying to imply that because GTA sold 2 to 1 in America thats what ffXIII would do.  However, I do think it will, but not for that reason.  I'm talking about America only, which is what is topic is about.  The game will be released the same day in America, probably in holiday 2010.  I don't think ps3 will have done anything but lose marketshare in that time frame.  I know everybody is talking about price cuts for the ps3, but they are also talking about microsoft quickly following it up with their own price cut which would negate any ps3 momentum, in America at least.  Also, the 360 has been pretty firmly established as the RPG console this gen, so more than likely, the majority of fans for the genre will have a 360.  True the franchise has been sony exclusives in the past, but just looking at the sales data for america and the 360 having twice the user base as the ps3, I think it is pretty obvious that a lot of sony fans switched over.  However, even former sony exclusives like devil may cry have sold better on the 360 in America.  That is what happens when you have twice the user base. 

I think what most of the people here are saying is they think the ps3 will almost match sells of the 360 in America when this comes out.  That is the only way I can see that it would be able to sell more on the ps3.  I don't see that happening, however, I only see the gap widening.  I work in retail, and talk to people about their systems purchases all the time.  Sony is just not popular at all this generation.  People tend to buy the systems that their friends have.

 



Kos-mos on 22 March 2009
badgenome said:
Kos-mos said:
badgenome said:
Kos-mos said:
badgenome said:
Kos-mos said:
FaRmLaNd said:
I'm sorry but did you just say GTA isn't nearly as popular as Final Fantasy? If you mean in Japan then fine but world wide thats simply not true.

Check sales data of all Final Fantasy games and all gta games then.

 

There are a lot more Final Fantasy games, so comparing total sales is not really the way to go about it. The best selling GTAs simply annihilate the best selling Final Fantasies.

 

 And why are there more games? Think before answering.

Because it's an older series with a shitload of spin-offs.

 

 And not because it`s populare? Ok. Ye have figured it out. Good boy, boy.

Nobody said it isn't popular. Only that it's not as popular as Grand Theft Auto, which is absolutely true. Reading comprehension FTW.

There are other countires than us. Do a survey in those and us and see which ones most popular. Don`t just talk to yer friends and us citizens.