Well, the only source of quotes I had was the thread on the 1UP review of Boogie (because I happened to remember posting in it and could find it easily), so that is a given.

sinha: i don't know where you're trying to take us.  your post about wii fans defending boogie seems stretched at best, more distorting and misleading.  whether you're asking people to be more introspective, i don't know.

to me, this whole lair thing is like seeing a heavy favorite fall.  is that not dramatic?  is that not what catches attention?  if Lair does indeed sell poorly (scores don't necessarily reflect sales), the word Lair is gonna synonymous with "flop" for a long time in the industry, and a new expression is born.  it mirrors the fall of the mighty ps3, and such parallels are something people like to pound on.

so it goes beyond the mere fact that Lair came on a system selling poorly.  it's drama, and they don't come often in real life.

No. But I was always suspicious that LAIR was going to be a dispointment - watching the movies and so on.

It was only after a site that I respect posted a terrible review of it - that the LAIR bashing started.

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What exactly are YOU trying to prove here? That LAIR is a good game, and doesn't deserved to be bashed?

There is a difference between a bad, a poor and a CRAP game. I have no doubt that LAIR falls into the final category. 

I don't know about you, but I hate CRAP games. I don't care what platform they are on. I bashed Boogie, I bashed the latest Tiger Woods (no different from the previous), I bashed Sonic & Secret Rings (a game I own).

And I most certainly will bash the hell out of LAIR - more so, because people (like you?) keep defending it. I just don't understand that at all. There are plenty of good games on the PS3 - and this is NOT one of them!

this still seems really harsh. i'll ask again, who has played it? i think fuzzmosis is the only one i've seen as of yet, i'll try to rent it tomorrow and then give my own 2 cents. i'll let you guys know, and believe me, i REALLY wanted this game to be spectacular, so if they let me down i'm prepared to tear em a new a$$hole. i am glad i didn't buy it hot off the shelves though.

The only thing distorting or misleading about my comment is the error I made on the quote from Diomede1976 because I don't know enough about each individual to know their biases and because his use of the term "happily reviewed" confused me.

Other than that, I'm not too concerned about responding to such an accusation from someone attempting to explain away the following quote of theirs:

"it's just a totally new kind of game! if you say "it doesn't interest me", that means you're being close-minded."

wow, now that i actually go back and read what i said, man, you really are taking things out of context. what i said:

i mean, you just don't know until you've tried it... it's just a totally new kind of game! if you say "it doesn't interest me", that means you're being close-minded. saying "i'm not interested in buying it" is a different thing, however. looks like i'll have fun with this kind of game, but only when friends are over.

and it was in response to Onna76's:

Can't say I would feel sorry about that, game doesn't interest me one single bit. You can see it with Mario Party 8, no matter if scores are somewhat low.. game will sell anyway, especially on the WII.

Now, I imagine in that post where you took out quotes about Boogie, you've been doing that for more than just me. Now it's more likely that you've distorted what other people were saying by taking their quotes.

EDIT: now i understand what naz was saying about diomedes's post.  you really are taking quotes out of context. 

The only poorly designed aspect of battletoads i've found is that it's really hard to figure out how to make it two player?  Hit select during a cutscene?  What's the deal with that?

shams said:

"No. But I was always suspicious that LAIR was going to be a dispointment - watching the movies and so on." 

So you didn't make that "wait for more reviews" argument because you knew Lair was going to be a disappointment.  But you made the argument for Boogie because you were always suspicious Boogie was going to be a good game, watching the movies and so on?  I guess you could have believed that, although it sure seemed like it was vice versa for most people.  It had nothing to do with their respective consoles?  Okay.

"What exactly are YOU trying to prove here? That LAIR is a good game, and doesn't deserved to be bashed?"

Yes, my point is obviously that Lair is a good game and doesn't deserve to be bashed. I mean, just look at the end (hint: after the "---") of my original comment, when I conclude by stating that Lair is the greatest video game ever made.  Brilliant.  You got me, I'm just a Sony fanboy.  One thing I would certainly never do is point out the hypocrisy of PS3 fans engaging in mental gymnastics to try and justify their future purchase of Lair despite a steady steam of horrible reviews.

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=6077

I also wanted this game to be spectacular. I've also played the game. I'll have a review up for it on my site tomorrow.

In short, it's not a good game. It's not anything even close to a good game. It has so many control problems, bugs, and boring missions that at best, it's a rental. At worst, the manual will end up lining my cat's litter box while the disc will be used as a coaster.

Seriously, the game gets you so amped up with the dragons and the amazing environments that you want to masturbate to the opening scenes.

Then you get to the gameplay and 20 minutes later, you're trying to rationalize why you shouldn't throw your Sixaxis across the room and stomp everything into a million pieces as revenge for tricking you into spending $60 on this game. 

It is actually not at all out of context, in fact it could hardly be any more in context. 

You're trying to show that it's out of context by bolding the key part of the statement you responded to... which is included almost verbatim (with YOU being responsible for any disparity) in the response from you? 

I fail to see what further information you have provided by including the quote from Onna76. 

-She says the game doesn't interest her one bit. 

-You declare Boogie to be "a totally new kind of game!" and tell her that if it doesn't interest her, that means she is "being close-minded". 

What exactly am I missing from that interaction that it is being distorted and taken out of context?

Does anyone else reading this believe the quote from Lingyis has been distorted and taken out of context by me?