Most smash fans hate Smashboards and competative smash. Namely as they have tried to enforce their logic of the game (which does not work in how these people play mind you) onto people who don't want it. If you speak good of SmashBoards, you are the ememy. This is a problem the competative smash communityy has never fought against.

To be honest, those Smash fans that hate SmashBoards don't know what they're missing. Even if you don't like competitive Brawl, the community there is still a very good and informative one. There's no doubt in my mind that the taste for competitive Smash will grow on people if they go there often. It's fun to discover a new way to play your favorite game, if you never experienced it before that is. I experienced it myself without even knowing Smash sites existed on the Interwebs (since the N64, hehe!), but it seems like SmashBoards were always a bit more advanced in strategies and new ways to play than I was. I guess that's because there are a bunch of talented, willing to help members there that want to get the most out of those games! They make amazing guides for each individual characters that can help you perfect your play style every time. That's awesome if you want my opinion. You don't have to copy the strategies they list or show with the help of videos, but knowing simple stuff such as Snake's hitboxes on his tilt moves is always interesting! ;)

Also, I didn't see anyone there enforce their logic of the game anywhere, so I don't really know what you're talking about here. If you're talking about Brawl+, well, those guys are dedicated about making the experience a better one, but they're definitely not forcing you to play their style of game. SmashBoards seems to be more like a resource for information about the various Smash games. I'm not sure if they created the SmashWiki, but that's one good page if they did!

Oh, by the way, I'm kind of new there, so I guess you can call me a "new guy" for now. I never used to visit the site until now. =P

newfag :P

And smashboards made the smash wiki.

@Smashchu2: Oh well then, I guess im an enemy because I talk with good smash players there who actually got better opinions about smash then here, lawl

I don't get people who think more skill and better = memorizing a combo of buttons that rails off a giant combo.

Vs actual timing being needed.

You can DI combos of tech them.

What do you mean? It's a fighting game, it's obvious there are combos you need/can pull off. There is actual timing required in pulling them off as well. What, you think it's a macro or a single button press that will trigger one or something? It's called perfecting your playstyle, nothing more.

So, is it any different than someone speed running a game (for fun, mind you) by trying to find the best techniques in order to finish the game more quickly, or someone doing a superplay by trying to get the best score possible without missing one combo (i.e. Radiant Silvergun, Ikaruga, etc.), etc.

Kasz... Seriously. :/

He's saying that combos, and the ability to execute combos, aren't the be all, end all of fighting game skill. At least, that's the way I understood it.

The possibility to do an inescapable 24-hit, three-super combo off a crouching fierce is kind of a two-edged sword: While they certainly look impressive and take some ability to pull off, it can devolve the game into a "jab first or die"-contest of sorts.

Like Solid said, you can "DI" and "tech" out of any combo. It's the same thing like in Melee and, to some extent, the normal Brawl.

Any combo, with any character, in any situation, in any stage?

I find that quite hard to believe, to be honest.

Isn't this the premise of Brawl+? To exactly make it possible?