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mike_intellivision on 20 March 2009
BTFeather55 said:

Fine. I'm not going to argue with you people any more this morning if you think Wii Sports is all that and all the cheese, then you should be happy if Nintendo and all other developers try to replicate that experience until the end of the gen. Go out and buy Wii Sports and Ubi Sports and Carnival Games and Circus Games and Zoo Games.

As for me, I'm going to get a Wii, but I'm only going to buy games like Madworld and hope to do my part in helping turn this system's game library around by doing so. And I am looking forward to certain games for the system like Madworld, Muramasa, and Kizuna and finally getting to play No More Heroes and Zack and Wiki and House of the Dead: Overkill.

And if things don't get turned around for the Wii and all it has are Wii games and clones of Wii games in a couple of years, then I'll buy a PS3 again because I know the Japanese market is going to support it with some good games as they have been doing this year.

Also, I have a 360, so I can get great Western games and strong multiplat games without a PS3.

One final word to the guy that was touting computer games. Computer games fall into one of three categories these days -- mmos, rts, and fps where the multiplayer aspects are more important. If you're looking for the best single player experiences and stories like in JRPGs, like I am, you will most often find them on consoles and not on PCs. The days of great single player games on pcs came to an end in the early nineties when games like Wolfenstein 3d and Doom came along to kill the vastly superior adventure and rpg games that Sierra On-Line, LucasArts, and Origin were putting out at the time. So, PCs don't have the best of every type of genre.

BT -- That's fine. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. It does not make someone right or wrong when they agree or disagree with the opinion of another, however.

And like a lot of people here, I can find joy in Wii Sports, Wii Play, Wii Music, Madden, Guitar Hero (other casusal games) or No More Heroes, Super Mario Galaxy, Medal of Honor 2, or RE4.

 

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puffy on 20 March 2009
Khuutra said:
You're preaching to the wrong choir, BTFeather.

We're that particular brand of gamer that enjoys both Wii Sports and Gears of War (or No More Heroes, or Muramasa, or Zack and Wiki, if you prefer).

 

 

I'm definately in this catagory.. In fact take a look at my top 5 for the last 2 months:

MARCH

1. Madworld
2. Wii Sports Resort
3. The Conduit
4. Punchout!!
5. Grand Slam Tennis

APRIL

1. Grand Slam Tennis
2. The Conduit
3. Punch-Out!!
4. Wii Sports Resort
5. Resident Evil: Darkside Chronicles



 

Senlis on 20 March 2009

It's well known that message board posting gamers are a minority no matter which system you own.




 

jefforange89 on 20 March 2009
BTFeather55 said:
mike_intellivision said:
BTFeather55 said:
Yeah, it means that developers might want to try to shovel more shovelware on the console instead of new ips in traditional genres. Wii owners are to blame. There are close to 50 million of you don't you want more good games on your system are are you really satisfied with bland products like Wii Sports, Wii Play, Wii Music, and Wii Fit?

 

Could you please explain the logic used to jump to that conclusion?

For example, not one game in the Petz series (which is often held up as a sign that Ubisoft has decided to go the shovelware route) sold 20k in the first week. Many of those games ended up with lifetime sales of 300k-400k.

If Madworld has anything close to that kind of multiplier, it will exceed 800k in NA alone.

 

Mike from Morgantown

 

 

 

      A game like Madworld should outsell a game like Carnival Games just as a game like Mario Galaxy should outsell a game like Wii Fit or Wii Play, but games in traditional genres aren't selling as they should on the Wii which could make more developers interested in embracing the Wii's expanded audience with their development rather than core gamers.  Look at Nintendo's E3 last year.  Was their a new Kid Icarus announced?  No, Animal Crossing (which walks the line between the two groups) and Wii Music (totally for the expanded audience) were the games Nintendo announced.

     There's a reason the Japanese haven't been buying Wiis lately while PS3s and games like Yakuza 3 and RE 5 have, and I think it is because they don't like these expanded market games that much.

haha what

15 million Mario Kart Wiis say hi (which is higher than any other "traditional game" this generation, I might add)

8.5 million SSBBs say hi (third best-selling "traditional game" this generation)

8 million SMGs say hi (fourth best-selling "traditional game" this generation)

5 million TPs say hi

3 million Animal Crossings say hi

2.75 million Super Paper Marios say hi

2 million Sonic and the Secret Rings say hi

1.66 million RE4s say hi

1.5 million Metroid Prime 3s say hi

1.3 million Pokemon Battle Revolutions say hi

1.25 million RE: UCs say hi

1.2 million Star Wars: TFUs ay hi

1.1 million Red Steels say hi

1 million COD: WAWs say hi

 

Not to mention, there are many games that were successes without passing the million mark - No More Heroes, de Blob, Wario Land: Shake It, and so on.  The first two I know are successful in the eyes of the developper, and I'm sure Nintendo can't be too unhappy with the sales of Wario Land.

 

Of course, traditional games don't sell on Wii, just like hardcore games don't sell on Wii, and third party games don't sell on Wii, and only casual games and shovelware sell on Wii. ~_~



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Khuutra on 20 March 2009

Now, Jeff, you know that's not fair.

TP's sales were cut off at the knees by the Gamecube version.

It's closer to seven million, now.



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jefforange89 on 20 March 2009

Meh. Multiplat games, imo, should be counted separately.



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naiyo on 20 March 2009
jefforange89 said:
BTFeather55 said:
mike_intellivision said:
BTFeather55 said:
Yeah, it means that developers might want to try to shovel more shovelware on the console instead of new ips in traditional genres. Wii owners are to blame. There are close to 50 million of you don't you want more good games on your system are are you really satisfied with bland products like Wii Sports, Wii Play, Wii Music, and Wii Fit?

 

Could you please explain the logic used to jump to that conclusion?

For example, not one game in the Petz series (which is often held up as a sign that Ubisoft has decided to go the shovelware route) sold 20k in the first week. Many of those games ended up with lifetime sales of 300k-400k.

If Madworld has anything close to that kind of multiplier, it will exceed 800k in NA alone.

 

Mike from Morgantown

 

 

 

      A game like Madworld should outsell a game like Carnival Games just as a game like Mario Galaxy should outsell a game like Wii Fit or Wii Play, but games in traditional genres aren't selling as they should on the Wii which could make more developers interested in embracing the Wii's expanded audience with their development rather than core gamers.  Look at Nintendo's E3 last year.  Was their a new Kid Icarus announced?  No, Animal Crossing (which walks the line between the two groups) and Wii Music (totally for the expanded audience) were the games Nintendo announced.

     There's a reason the Japanese haven't been buying Wiis lately while PS3s and games like Yakuza 3 and RE 5 have, and I think it is because they don't like these expanded market games that much.

haha what

15 million Mario Kart Wiis say hi (which is higher than any other "traditional game" this generation, I might add)

8.5 million SSBBs say hi (third best-selling "traditional game" this generation)

8 million SMGs say hi (fourth best-selling "traditional game" this generation)

5 million TPs say hi

3 million Animal Crossings say hi

2.75 million Super Paper Marios say hi

2 million Sonic and the Secret Rings say hi

1.66 million RE4s say hi

1.5 million Metroid Prime 3s say hi

1.3 million Pokemon Battle Revolutions say hi

1.25 million RE: UCs say hi

1.2 million Star Wars: TFUs ay hi

1.1 million Red Steels say hi

1 million COD: WAWs say hi

 

Not to mention, there are many games that were successes without passing the million mark - No More Heroes, de Blob, Wario Land: Shake It, and so on.  The first two I know are successful in the eyes of the developper, and I'm sure Nintendo can't be too unhappy with the sales of Wario Land.

 

Of course, traditional games don't sell on Wii, just like hardcore games don't sell on Wii, and third party games don't sell on Wii, and only casual games and shovelware sell on Wii. ~_~

Why are wii owner happy about these sales?  These games are getting away with murder.

Look

15 million Mario Kart Wii (We can keep the graphics the same as GC and not work on it! GREAT!)

3 million Animal Crossings (We can keep the graphics the same as GC and not work on it! GREAT!)

2.75 million Super Paper Mario (We can keep the graphics the same as GC and not work on it! GREAT!)

2 million Sonic and the Secret Rings (We can give the dumb ass wii fan under work ugly graphics and they will love us no matter what.)

1.25 million RE: UC (We will give them what they don't want and they will love us for it!)

1.66 million RE4 (Give them a bone this time because they will never see this type of game again from capcom. he he!)

1.5 million Metroid Prime 3 (Whats online?)

1.2 million Star Wars: TFU ( We didn't even try.)

1 million COD: WAW (What the hell is left in this game?)

 

These games and the developers that work on them make all the ppl that defending them a fool.  Its like the wii fanboys will say anything to fight a PS3/360 fanboy.   Look the only thing thats good about the wii is just the wiimote,thats it.  The games thats on the system are all half ass work.  The console is half ass too.  Lets be real.  We will see how many nintendo fans will stay with them when the wiimote type of controller is on other systems.   It will be the PS1 and PS2 days all over again.  I can't wait.  Developers plus nintendo should be ashame of themselves.  The shit this console has put out will go down in infamy.



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Dazkarieh on 20 March 2009

naiyo, you make me laugh :D Keep it on!



     

 

Fossil on 20 March 2009
Dazkarieh said:
naiyo, you make me laugh :D Keep it on!

 

Dang, beat me to it XD



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naiyo on 20 March 2009
Dazkarieh said:
naiyo, you make me laugh :D Keep it on!

 

These wii games make me laugh.



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