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ChichiriMuyo on 20 March 2009

Meh... misread what I was replying to.



You do not have the right to never be offended.

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twesterm on 20 March 2009
Ascended_Saiyan3 said:

You can't chapter skip a FBI warning on a studio made DVD.  Bootleg movies would be a different story.  Your points of DVD being more "durable" than VHS is..."grasping at straws".  I just followed your league in that respect.

 

 

Ah, thank you, longevity is the word I was looking for.

Also

 



 

Squilliam on 20 March 2009

@ Twesterm, was that your heavy breathing?



Tease.

Spankey on 20 March 2009
averyblund said:
I know it has been said before, but downloads are the future for the technophile. For the rest DVD is good enough.

I personally haven't bought a DVD or CD this century (got a few as gifts). HD is easy to get (legally) online, heck I barely watch TV with things like Hulu. Discs are overpriced, and there are few films worth actually owning. Plus I like not having to track down a disc when I want to watch something.

For me Blu-Ray died before it was even born, along with DVD and CD.

 

Not specifically directed at you, but to those advocating Direct downloads and streaming

What is the point of streaming "HD" when it's not even in surround sound?

As far as I know, this isn't happening yet.

Might as well watch a "HD" youtube vid.

It'll probably imporve over time, but so will Blu-Ray.



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Ascended_Saiyan3 on 20 March 2009
NanakiXI said:
Ascended_Saiyan3 said:
NanakiXI said:
I think 12% for Blur-Ray is great considering that only 5%(maybe 10% max) of DVD's titles are released on Blue-Ray. I think they still count the sales for DVDs that were released since launch of DVD itself Vs. Blue-Rays smaller catalog. But that is my opinion.

That's because those 10% of DVD titles is where a HUGE chuck of the money goes to (big Hollywood titles).  Those are all on Blu-ray (no "e") unless shot in 480p.

 

 

I'll give you the fact that I spelled Blu-Ray wrong like 3 times(My mistake) but WTF are you talking about? I'm talking about every DVD ever released. Almost every new movie is now released on Blu-Ray. The Blu-Ray catalog is like 5%-10% of DVD's catalog so DVD has much more movies to sell Vs. Blu-Ray. If every movie on DVD (not new talking about new releases but every movie ever) was to be released on Blue-Ray tomorrow and sell for a few months I think we would see a big difference in %.

Plain and simple DVD has a bigger library so DVD sells more. There are more DVD players than Blu-Ray players so DVD sells more. If they equal it would be a different story.

Blu-Ray is a new format and will take time to grow. Keep in mind that the people over the age of 40yrs (not a fact but common sense as they have always bought movies physically and not digitally their whole life) are more likely to convert to Blu-Ray than Download. That is a huge number of people. My grandparents don't have computers but they have a Blu-Ray that can play their DVDs and they buy new movies or scathed DVDs on Blu-Ray.

Last time I checked PPV has been around for while and never stole any thunder from DVDs.

We are, basically, saying the same thing.  There are TONS of indepedent made DVDs released all the time.  That total would make the big Hollywood releases tally up to be around 5 to 10% of the total amount of movies released on DVD.  THose 5 to 10% would also see a Blu-ray release.  That's all I'm saying.

 



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Ascended_Saiyan3 on 20 March 2009
Khuutra said:
Ascended_Saiyan3 said:
Khuutra said:
Ascended_Saiyan3 said:

There is more of an audio and video difference than DVD over VHS.  That's a fact and can't be logically disputed.  Are you not looking at the charts I placed for you to look at?  It doesn't make sense to make a statement saying people don't care about Blu-ray (notice...no "e" in Blu-ray) after seeing those charts.  Just say that YOU and some fanatical ex-HD DVD supporters don't care about Blu-ray (for obivous reasons) and call it a day.  DVD sales have been CONSTANTLY falling.  Blu-ray sales is CONSTANTLY rising.  'Nuff said.

This I wasn't aware of. DVDs made less money in 2008 than in 2007?

Just follow the Home Media Magazine weekly reports.

That doesn' answer my question.

Since you have a problem doing your own research, maybe this will answer your question.

 



Khuutra on 20 March 2009
Ascended_Saiyan3 said:
Khuutra said:
Ascended_Saiyan3 said:
Khuutra said:
Ascended_Saiyan3 said:

There is more of an audio and video difference than DVD over VHS.  That's a fact and can't be logically disputed.  Are you not looking at the charts I placed for you to look at?  It doesn't make sense to make a statement saying people don't care about Blu-ray (notice...no "e" in Blu-ray) after seeing those charts.  Just say that YOU and some fanatical ex-HD DVD supporters don't care about Blu-ray (for obivous reasons) and call it a day.  DVD sales have been CONSTANTLY falling.  Blu-ray sales is CONSTANTLY rising.  'Nuff said.

This I wasn't aware of. DVDs made less money in 2008 than in 2007?

Just follow the Home Media Magazine weekly reports.

That doesn' answer my question.

Since you have a problem doing your own research, maybe this will answer your question.

No need to be pithy, it's perfectly reasonable to ask someone to provide a source for a claim they make. I'm not going to make your argument for you, even if it's for the sake of my own curiosity.

And that didn't answer my question either, unfortunately. You're a year off.



Ascended_Saiyan3 on 20 March 2009
twesterm said:
Ascended_Saiyan3 said:

You can't chapter skip a FBI warning on a studio made DVD.  Bootleg movies would be a different story.  Your points of DVD being more "durable" than VHS is..."grasping at straws".  I just followed your league in that respect.

 

 

Ah, thank you, longevity is the word I was looking for.

Also

 

I just picked a random DVD movie from my collection (Boondock Saints).  I could NOT skip the FBI warning.  Maybe you can only do it with some TV shows.  Do you have Boondock Saints?

Wait...

Just picked another random DVD (Scream).  That one let me skip the FBI warning.  So, it seems it's pretty random.  Some you can and some you can't.

 



steven787 on 20 March 2009

The argument is flawed in so many ways.

Bluray doesn't have to "beat" DVD. It only has to be profitable and it is.

Will it last? Probably, Blurays aren't expensive to transport and store. Will it become the standard? No, it will always be a semi-luxury item because DVD is good enough for most people and viable HD downloads for the masses are just around the corner.



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

Ascended_Saiyan3 on 20 March 2009
Khuutra said:
Ascended_Saiyan3 said:
Khuutra said:
Ascended_Saiyan3 said:
Khuutra said:
Ascended_Saiyan3 said:

There is more of an audio and video difference than DVD over VHS.  That's a fact and can't be logically disputed.  Are you not looking at the charts I placed for you to look at?  It doesn't make sense to make a statement saying people don't care about Blu-ray (notice...no "e" in Blu-ray) after seeing those charts.  Just say that YOU and some fanatical ex-HD DVD supporters don't care about Blu-ray (for obivous reasons) and call it a day.  DVD sales have been CONSTANTLY falling.  Blu-ray sales is CONSTANTLY rising.  'Nuff said.

This I wasn't aware of. DVDs made less money in 2008 than in 2007?

Just follow the Home Media Magazine weekly reports.

That doesn' answer my question.

Since you have a problem doing your own research, maybe this will answer your question.

No need to be pithy, it's perfectly reasonable to ask someone to provide a source for a claim they make. I'm not going to make your argument for you, even if it's for the sake of my own curiosity.

And that didn't answer my question either, unfortunately. You're a year off.

I let you know where that information resides.  Usually, the person requesting someone to doe research for them asks in a much better manner. 

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/daves-download/2008/3/12/dvd-sales-drop-faster-than-blu-ray-can-rise.html  (more background)

http://www.techradar.com/news/home-cinema/dvd-sales-slip-up-in-2008-500975  (your answer)

Now you know that DVD sales have been CONSTANTLY slipping since 2007.