Mario Galaxy - Built around platforming puzzles based on spherical planets where gravity matters, and you have to solve puzzles or use gravity to help you...along with shooting stars using the wiimote pointer, various new costumes that give Mario different abilities never seen before, etc.

Halo 3 - the Forge is pretty cool...allows you to edit maps in real-time by placing weapons, vehicles, spawn points, etc. anywhere you want while other people can play.  Each side gets a certain allowance of editing capabilities, though it's shared, so it's best to spawn stuff quickly before the other team "edits" them away.  You can spawn a box, jump on top, and then grab the box and fly around the map, sniping people from a "flying carpet box."

Both seem innovative enough to me.

You're absolutely right that experimental stuff doesn't always make a great game. You're also right that Killzone 2 is shooting (no pun intended) for becoming the best FPS on the PS3.  However, because of the hype that is surrounding this game, it is unlikely that "some of that good old stuff that works" will be enough. It maybe fine for you, but it won't be for a lot of people, especially when trying to justify a hugely expensive console to boot. Because of all the hype around it, for a game to be the same old thing + eye candy would be a huge disappointment.

 Man thats gonna be so hard, BUT SO AWESOME!!!!! HALO 3 FTW.

I never really played the first two, so im gonna hit wiki and read up on the storyline.

Even though ive not played the first two, i can tell three is gonna be HUGE 

It's hard to innovate the FPS genre, so most dev's go for displaying the good 'ol gameplay elements in a flashy manner. I own Killzone on PS2, and it was a decent game. I do believe this will be a good game, especially on a huge LCD with 1080P and surround sound cranked up to shake your eardrums!!

Hold up Mummelmann, wasn't it confirmed awhile back that Killzone 2 will be running at 720P @ 30FPS? If that's the case, would 1080P happen?

Oh and Hus, no one has even mentioned the Wii in this thread, keep your irrelevant bashing to yourself, people are actually talking about the game here.

"It's hard to declare killzone 2 an innovative success on a gameplay level, even though all the elements of a solid FPS are firmly in place. ...... PS3 owners have atleast one new AAA title to call their own next year."

that is what he was talking about. Seemed pretty straight forward to me.

Is this game going to be running at 60 FPS?

http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/815/815430p3.html

"Killzone 2 will run at a steady 30 fps in 720p."

It looks like it will be a great game. Yet i wonder if it will hit the 'AAA' rating.

The game does indeed look fantastic by it's artistic approach. Yet this game depends on the artistic aproach by having a dark atmosphere and almost have to shoot to have light. Yet for the rest it's just a 'light in the dark' theme.
I just wonder what they will do to not make the game look repetetive all time and what the game will look like if the 'dark' fades away.

Like in halo you have vast colorfull enviroments and then you move on to some darker caves etc. (many games do that) In mario you always have a 'halloween' level, etc. That keeps the game kinda interesting and suggestive for puzzle solving, yet i just hope this game will offer more art then just this 'day in night' effect. Because once in the light it could look like any other basic game out there.

But they did nice, i never tought they could come up with such graphics if you keep the limited amount of memory in mind. Well you can see it a bit of level entry they don't show the entire map and there are no enemies running around but it's very impressive.

I refuse to believe anything about KZ2 until it's actually released. Seriously the first Killzone was constantly hyped as a halo killer and that it would be fantastically amazingly awesome. And it wasn't. It was graphically good but that was all. Am I the only one who remembers all the hype around the original Killzone? This is one game I am firmly going to wait for reviews for.