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joshin69 on 14 March 2009

As Wiki has been used, hope no one else has posted if they have, sorry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_Ex_3 Doesn't say a thing about PS3 but when have wiki ever been wrong



 

 assumption is the mother of all f**k ups 

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Barozi on 14 March 2009
vlad321 said:
Barozi said:
vlad321 said:
786_ali said:
i don't see how having regenerating health and 'Multi-kill' is because it's on consoles

 

Because they make the game simpler and seem tacked on jsut for the fuck of it.

 

@Barozi

You do know HL2 EP2 is a cheap port for the cocnsoles and not designed for them at all.

I don't know what you mean with cheap port.

Moneywise ? Well maybe I dunno.

Qualitywise ? Not at all. It's just as great as on the PC (talking about Valve's 360 port)

It was designed for the PC first and foremost and they got a small team of lik 4-5 people to mak it compatible with the 360 because it's so easy to go PC-> 360. The whole design process thogh was done for the PC and that makes the whole difference. They kept their focus on the PC gamers not the console ones.

So what prevents devs from designing a game for the PC and then port it to the consoles ?

You shouldn't blame the consoles, you should blame the developers !



vlad321 on 14 March 2009
Barozi said:
vlad321 said:
Barozi said:
vlad321 said:
786_ali said:
i don't see how having regenerating health and 'Multi-kill' is because it's on consoles

 

Because they make the game simpler and seem tacked on jsut for the fuck of it.

 

@Barozi

You do know HL2 EP2 is a cheap port for the cocnsoles and not designed for them at all.

I don't know what you mean with cheap port.

Moneywise ? Well maybe I dunno.

Qualitywise ? Not at all. It's just as great as on the PC (talking about Valve's 360 port)

It was designed for the PC first and foremost and they got a small team of lik 4-5 people to mak it compatible with the 360 because it's so easy to go PC-> 360. The whole design process thogh was done for the PC and that makes the whole difference. They kept their focus on the PC gamers not the console ones.

So what prevents devs from designing a game for the PC and then port it to the consoles ?

You shouldn't blame the consoles, you should blame the developers !

 

Because, technologically games can't handle either fast games or just games with lots of buttons. Why do you htink most console shooters allow you to carry only a ew weapons?

 



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

Baggins on 14 March 2009
Onyxmeth said:
Baggins said:
Xen said:
I am excited. I played it on PC back in the day, and it's one of the best WRPG's I ever played.

 

It wasn't a WRPG!!!! How dare you even think that?

So then what was it? Everyone that has ever played it has called it an RPG.

 

Yeah but it was so much more than that. When we think WRPG we think Morrowind\Oblivion\Some losely plotted sandbox world joined together by some scripting. Sure technically it might be called an RPG nowadays. But back then it was an action adventure.

It was a mix of everything, there's no way you could call it an RPG with a straight face, not with the negative connotations it implies. It had the richness of a JRPG with the no nonsense WRPG attititudes of past times...

Ahhhh, I've sussed it. It's not an RPG because you couldn't chose who you were. You had set choices but you couldn't actually chose who you were. It wasn't your story, you were following a path. So you could choose how you got past an area but it was more of an FPS than an RPG.

How much dialogue was there? Certainly not a WRPGs worth!

 



Baggins on 14 March 2009
vlad321 said:
Barozi said:
vlad321 said:
Barozi said:
vlad321 said:
786_ali said:
i don't see how having regenerating health and 'Multi-kill' is because it's on consoles

 

Because they make the game simpler and seem tacked on jsut for the fuck of it.

 

@Barozi

You do know HL2 EP2 is a cheap port for the cocnsoles and not designed for them at all.

I don't know what you mean with cheap port.

Moneywise ? Well maybe I dunno.

Qualitywise ? Not at all. It's just as great as on the PC (talking about Valve's 360 port)

It was designed for the PC first and foremost and they got a small team of lik 4-5 people to mak it compatible with the 360 because it's so easy to go PC-> 360. The whole design process thogh was done for the PC and that makes the whole difference. They kept their focus on the PC gamers not the console ones.

So what prevents devs from designing a game for the PC and then port it to the consoles ?

You shouldn't blame the consoles, you should blame the developers !

 

Because, technologically games can't handle either fast games or just games with lots of buttons. Why do you htink most console shooters allow you to carry only a ew weapons?

 

 

 Actually it was a crap port, even the superior 360 version was a terrible job. It should have easily done 60fps without a hiccup on the 360\PS3 hardware. HL2\EP1\EP2 did 60fps on my old setup with graphics maxed at 1600x1200 on a 6800GT\2500+ mobile clocked at 2.6Ghz. (single core).

 

If you think it was a good port you need to do some research.



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Baggins on 14 March 2009
joshin69 said:
As Wiki has been used, hope no one else has posted if they have, sorry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_Ex_3 Doesn't say a thing about PS3 but when have wiki ever been wrong

 

 

You're being sarcastic on Wikipedia, but you will find that 99% of the time it is actually correct. It's just that it's cool to say it's wrong.

 

I challenge you to dig out 10 articles that have main points that are inherrantly BS.

 

Not possible.

 

I wish people would stop implying wikipedia is "wrong" it's about as right as you're going to get in GENERAL.



Barozi on 14 March 2009
vlad321 said:
Barozi said:
vlad321 said:
Barozi said:
vlad321 said:
786_ali said:
i don't see how having regenerating health and 'Multi-kill' is because it's on consoles

 

Because they make the game simpler and seem tacked on jsut for the fuck of it.

 

@Barozi

You do know HL2 EP2 is a cheap port for the cocnsoles and not designed for them at all.

I don't know what you mean with cheap port.

Moneywise ? Well maybe I dunno.

Qualitywise ? Not at all. It's just as great as on the PC (talking about Valve's 360 port)

It was designed for the PC first and foremost and they got a small team of lik 4-5 people to mak it compatible with the 360 because it's so easy to go PC-> 360. The whole design process thogh was done for the PC and that makes the whole difference. They kept their focus on the PC gamers not the console ones.

So what prevents devs from designing a game for the PC and then port it to the consoles ?

You shouldn't blame the consoles, you should blame the developers !

Because, technologically games can't handle either fast games or just games with lots of buttons. Why do you htink most console shooters allow you to carry only a ew weapons?

aaaw now it's getting ridiculous.



vlad321 on 14 March 2009
Barozi said:
vlad321 said:
Barozi said:
vlad321 said:
Barozi said:
vlad321 said:
786_ali said:
i don't see how having regenerating health and 'Multi-kill' is because it's on consoles

 

Because they make the game simpler and seem tacked on jsut for the fuck of it.

 

@Barozi

You do know HL2 EP2 is a cheap port for the cocnsoles and not designed for them at all.

I don't know what you mean with cheap port.

Moneywise ? Well maybe I dunno.

Qualitywise ? Not at all. It's just as great as on the PC (talking about Valve's 360 port)

It was designed for the PC first and foremost and they got a small team of lik 4-5 people to mak it compatible with the 360 because it's so easy to go PC-> 360. The whole design process thogh was done for the PC and that makes the whole difference. They kept their focus on the PC gamers not the console ones.

So what prevents devs from designing a game for the PC and then port it to the consoles ?

You shouldn't blame the consoles, you should blame the developers !

Because, technologically games can't handle either fast games or just games with lots of buttons. Why do you htink most console shooters allow you to carry only a ew weapons?

aaaw now it's getting ridiculous.

Oh really? Do you honestly think that Halo would have kept using the 2 wep system if they had known how to implement the ability to select any numer of 10 weps quickly? Also have you realized Gears has more or less 2 buttons? A shoot and a run/cover?

 



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

786_ali on 14 March 2009

now the problem is a lack of buttons? well the controls can be adapted but that doesn't neccessarily affect gameplay



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Barozi on 14 March 2009
vlad321 said:
Barozi said:
vlad321 said:
Barozi said:
vlad321 said:
Barozi said:
vlad321 said:
786_ali said:
i don't see how having regenerating health and 'Multi-kill' is because it's on consoles

 

Because they make the game simpler and seem tacked on jsut for the fuck of it.

 

@Barozi

You do know HL2 EP2 is a cheap port for the cocnsoles and not designed for them at all.

I don't know what you mean with cheap port.

Moneywise ? Well maybe I dunno.

Qualitywise ? Not at all. It's just as great as on the PC (talking about Valve's 360 port)

It was designed for the PC first and foremost and they got a small team of lik 4-5 people to mak it compatible with the 360 because it's so easy to go PC-> 360. The whole design process thogh was done for the PC and that makes the whole difference. They kept their focus on the PC gamers not the console ones.

So what prevents devs from designing a game for the PC and then port it to the consoles ?

You shouldn't blame the consoles, you should blame the developers !

Because, technologically games can't handle either fast games or just games with lots of buttons. Why do you htink most console shooters allow you to carry only a ew weapons?

aaaw now it's getting ridiculous.

Oh really? Do you honestly think that Halo would have kept using the 2 wep system if they had known how to implement the ability to select any numer of 10 weps quickly? Also have you realized Gears has more or less 2 buttons? A shoot and a run/cover?

Resistance FOM shows that it's very easy to swap weapons fast, easy and precise.

So now it's epic's fault that they've created good TPS controls ?

Well personally I also use the aim button and the button for reload, oh and that button for melee attacks. In co-op even that button where the screen shows my partner.