selnor said:  I would like to see if the PS3 could handle KZ2 split screen coop campaign. Considering that KZ2 singleplayer drops to 24 FPS at times, I doubt it.

http://www.digitalfoundry.org/blog/?p=301

 

About Gears 2 (singleplayer I assume):

 

"...frame rate and v-lock issues. Lots of screen tear, and frame rate drops to 24fps as fire engulfs the screen"

 

Here are some links that are not eg that show that the 360 has the advantage in both bioshock and GTA.
http://d.hatena.ne.jp/yoda-dip-jp/20081004#1223141168 (also didnt a ps3 mag or website also say that the ps3 version didnt look as good as the 360 it was posted on this website)
http://www.videogamer.com/features/article/29-04-2008-389.html
Just one thing I would like to add though it does seem this gen that people seem to give the credit more to the machine that it os on other than the people who made it. The best looking games on the ps3 were made(uncharted 1 and 2, KZ and metal gear) were made by VERY and when I say VERY lol i mean some of the best game devs in the busness, and second made ground up for just that machine(talking mostly about KZ where there was alot of time and money spent on making the engine that worked perfect with the ps3. The 360 best looking games were made by mutly plat devs and the engine used not made just for the 360. My point is maybe just maybe the reason the ps3 has great looking exclusives is not so much the machine but the guys making the games.
Peace out.

NNN2004 said: the problem is even if the difference looks like this:   MS fans will say its look better on the 360?!

Fixed :)

 

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There is so much fail in your post sir I almost had pop come out of my nose

 

 

 

“Because GTA IV can preload onto the PS3 hard drive, the in-game loads are faster. Do not worry Xbox owners, the load times are rarely more than 30 seconds and do not occur very often. The slight visual edge goes to PS3.”

 

This has to have come from before the NXE or something b/c you can do that with the xbox now as well……FAIL +1

 

 

"2K Games went out of their way to make sure that the larger capacity of the Blu-ray was used to implement higher resolution textures across the title, as well as improve some of the in-game cutscenes. For the most part, you'll see these appear as a slightly sharper Rapture across the board, and you'll be able to pick up some features that look better than on the 360, such as pools of water or neon signage”

 

 

Thats funny b/c all I can remember is people making fun of the crappy texture work they got and how big daddies looked like crap on the ps3 compared to the 360 counter part….FAIL +1

 

“"Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots features an aging and exhausted Solid Snake in the middle of a futuristic battlefield. In spite of his failing body, Snake is equipped with a crucial new device tentatively known as "OctoCamo," a high-tech suit that dynamically transforms its texture based on Snake's surroundings. This revolutionary new gameplay mechanic allows him to seamlessly blend into the environment, providing him with the means to stalk his enemies like never before. This latest chapter in Hideo Kojima's legendary tactical espionage action series marks the return of several characters from previous Metal Gear Solid games including Revolver Ocelot, Meryl Silverburgh, Naomi Hunter and Raiden, and features an unforgettable story that depicts the desperate state of the future as seen through the eyes of an older Solid Snake."

-Gamespot

What does this tag have to do with the graphics being uber better….hell in Tenchu series I was able to roll out a cloth that could blend me in with my sourndings…what are your trying to proove with this. If I am making an argument that my cat can fly I don’t bring in the fact that my car can go real fast and hit jumps that are kinda like flying…..FAIL +1

 

 

 

Best Graphics of E3 2008: Killzone 2

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/37526.html

-Gametrailers

Best Graphics 2008: MGS4

http://www.spike.com/event/vga/page/vote/category/29527

-Spike

 

Your serious here?   You bring up two games that cant possiable have a comparison point on the 360 and say hey!!! See I am right here, this reeks of despiration  FAIL +1

 

 

“I could go on with this but the bottom line is that Eurogamer is at odds with almost all of the interwebs.”

 

Just b/c something is at odds with the rest does not make it wrong; I could say the sun is a giant ball of gas burning in the solar system. And I am sure you could grab hundred of different sources that say I am in the minority on that, but in the end we all know who is right…..FAIL +1

 

 

“Just Google best graphics and you'll find PS3 on top of the list.”

 

http://www.bestgraphics.net/

 

 

that’s kinda funny but that is not a ps3 site I got on the top of my list….maybe the interwebs is broken?.....FAIL +1

 

 

all in all guy you set out with some kinda goofy agenda and put your neck on the chopping block, I am sure in your mind you have prooven your ppoint…but really?

 

As I enjoyed a game of Left 4 Dead last night I realized that I was having a blast (working over nothing special) and the graphics were more then enough for me to have fun with hordes of zombies and guns blazing….i hope that someday you to will reach that point b/c you can make such better games if you were to just let graphics take a back seat to the whole package

 

gergroy said: I'm surprised nobody has mentioned gamespot's console comparisons. They do one on a quarterly basis I believe. I think they tend to give the 360 the win as well, but I haven't looked at all their comparison's so I can't be sure.

EuroGamer researches and comes up with some mumbo-jumbo that nobody understands and so everyone follows blindly.

GameSpot (now known as the "we hate everyone" site) gives you some images, says the PS3 version looks blurry, mentions anti-aliasing and something about shadows and draws no visible conclusion.

Neither is particularly good, but EuroGamer is better. They back up their opinion with facts, even if those facts are greatly exaggerated.

Kantor said: gergroy said: I'm surprised nobody has mentioned gamespot's console comparisons. They do one on a quarterly basis I believe. I think they tend to give the 360 the win as well, but I haven't looked at all their comparison's so I can't be sure. EuroGamer researches and comes up with some mumbo-jumbo that nobody understands and so everyone follows blindly. GameSpot (now known as the "we hate everyone" site) gives you some images, says the PS3 version looks blurry, mentions anti-aliasing and something about shadows and draws no visible conclusion. Neither is particularly good, but EuroGamer is better. They back up their opinion with facts, even if those facts are greatly exaggerated.

Or Gamespot is paid by "M$"

 

Ok i've had enough of hatebox 360 fanboys:

"“I could go on with this but the bottom line is that Eurogamer is at odds with almost all of the interwebs.”



Just b/c something is at odds with the rest does not make it wrong; I could say the sun is a giant ball of gas burning in the solar system. And I am sure you could grab hundred of different sources that say I am in the minority on that, but in the end we all know who is right…..FAIL +1"

mmm, that ones reaching a little me thinks.

@BladeOfGod

Posting a Youtube video for a graphics comparison is stupid.

haxxiy said: selnor said:  I would like to see if the PS3 could handle KZ2 split screen coop campaign. Considering that KZ2 singleplayer drops to 24 FPS at times, I doubt it. http://www.digitalfoundry.org/blog/?p=301   About Gears 2 (singleplayer I assume):   "...frame rate and v-lock issues. Lots of screen tear, and frame rate drops to 24fps as fire engulfs the screen"

This has to be the cherry pick of the year!What your forgetting is Gears 2 looks the same and plays the same in 2 player split screen. Thats the way the engine is designed. My point was, if KZ2 was made to be able to do coop, it wouldnt look the way it does. The fact that Gears 2 is so bloody close to looking as good as KZ2 (and in some areas beats it) is gobsmacking to me. But then fanboys will forget little info like this and experience one of the games we mentioned. While I'll finish both. :)