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We do spend a good bit of money on new technologies, but our healthcare system is also a bureaucratic nightmare. Insurance companies are more inefficient than the government.

Ironically people surveyed in this article below who used Medicare rather than private insurance ranked their care as consistently better.

And I hate to break it to you, but not every "medical breakthrough" is as glamorous as it sounds.  Many times a new drug is put on the market that is essentially no different from the drug that came before it.  The patent just ran out and the company is trying to make an extra buck by marketing it as something new to a consumer who knows nothing and will believe anything his doctor tells him.

http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/1648740/review_of_us_healthcare_system_shows_waste_high_costs/index.html

Review Of US Healthcare System Shows Waste, High Costs


Posted on: Wednesday, 4 March 2009, 07:51 CST

The United States healthcare system is plagued with skyrocketing costs and widespread waste, according to a new report by the nonpartisan think tank Rand Corp.

While undoubtedly one of the world's most advanced and complicated healthcare systems, challenges have escalated as the population ages, said the report, which can be viewed at www.randcompare.org.

The survey found that while Americans are living longer, two-thirds are now overweight or obese, one in 10 have diabetes and roughly 25 percent of those aged 45 to 54 suffer from hypertension.

And while more than half of Americans are covered by insurance provided by their employers, the quality of coverage varies widely. Nearly 16 percent of Americans are without any insurance at all, the report said.

Ironically, U.S. spending on health care is growing faster than the economy as a whole, with data from the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services revealing that healthcare spending reached 2.1 trillion dollars in 2006, and was projected to reach 2.25 trillion dollars by 2007, a 6.7 percent annual increase.

"By 2017, about 20 cents of every dollar spent in the US economy will be spent on health care," Rand said in its review.

In 2006, the federal government was responsible for roughly one-third of U.S. healthcare spending, primarily through Medicaid and Medicare. Private insurance company payments accounted for another 34 percent, while out-of-pocket payments by patients accounted for 14 percent. The remainder came from state and local funds and other private funds.

Rand found that the average American spends roughly six percent of their after-tax income on health care. The poor and elderly pay an even larger share.

Lengthening life spans, the increase in obesity, and technological innovations that push back mortality but with higher costs are among the trends driving up costs, the review found.

The Congressional Budget Office found that technological advances alone were responsible for over half the increase in spending.

"Certain technological changes, for example some vaccines, may reduce spending. However, in general new technologies tend to increase the number of health services that an individual receives, thereby increasing costs," Rand said in its review.

Some see the U.S. healthcare system as wasteful when compared to systems in other nations, and the U.S. spends substantially more on administrative costs compared with single payer systems. Indeed, while administrative costs comprise 7 percent of total U.S. healthcare spending, the number is just 1.9 percent in France, according to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development. Private insurance companies have even higher administrative costs, at 14 percent.

"Practitioners and hospitals, in their interactions with multiple payers, are encumbered by numerous billing requirements, a multitude of formulas and clinical care guidelines, and patients with different covered benefits," the think tank said.


Furthermore, some studies show that one-third or more of medical procedures performed in the United States were of questionable benefit, Rand said.

A 2008 study comparing health care systems in developed nations found that while patients in the U.S. reported waiting less time to get an appointment to see a specialist, they also reported more problems with the efficacy of the procedures and the costs.

However, U.S. Medicare patients consistently ranked their care better than did those insured by private companies, according to surveys funded by the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality.


President Barack Obama has recently proposed spending $634 billion on healthcare reforms aimed at expanding coverage to some 45 million uninsured Americans.



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The problem i see with labels such as socialist or social democrat is that they can describe a large number of people with various views. Its not a lock step definition and leaves a lot of grey areas.

Do i personally believe that Obama's Keynesian ecocnomic policy will stop this recession? No. Do I believe the republicans offered an alternative that wasnt exact the same as Obama's? No, George Bush was front and center on the bailouts to begin with and not differentiating your politcal policy from your opponents is a sure way to loose elections.

This is what I believe was the problem, the Repubicans abandoned their small government platform because they had the power and decided to use it abd spend like drunken sailor or pork instead of doing what was best for America and lowering governmental spending.



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Nickelbackro said:

Do i personally believe that Obama's Keynesian ecocnomic policy will stop this recession? No. Do I believe the republicans offered an alternative that wasnt exact the same as Obama's? No, George Bush was front and center on the bailouts to begin with and not differentiating your politcal policy from your opponents is a sure way to loose elections.

 

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Government gets 90% of every dollar spent? I call bullshit.



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By the way, I would like to remind TheRealMafoo that there's a difference between "X is closer to socialism than Y" and "X is socialist".



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Government gets 90% of every dollar spent? I call bullshit.

I earn a dollar. 33% of it is taken right off the bat by the fed. I then lose  6% from the state. 39c gone.

Then I spend it, and of the 61c left, 3.7 is taken in sales tax. 42.7c gone.

Then all the profit earned from the sale of whatever is sold to me is taxed at roughly 45% (what's not profit is because he spent it on something, and that's then taxed at 45% from whomever he bought the item from).

If profit was 100% (not likely), that's 25.8c. 68.5c gone at a max, probably more like 60c gone.

So, of that 40c left per dollar I earn, I have to pay all the rest of the taxes we pay. I pay more tax when I pay:

  • Property tax
  • Boat tax
  • Major tax when I stay in a hotel or fly
  • Auto tax
  • Major tax on gas
  • Spend money on highly taxed items like Alchahol.
  • And the dozens of other items additional tax is collected on.

I read somewhere that the amount of every dollar spent that goes to the government, is around 90c



Final-Fan said:
By the way, I would like to remind TheRealMafoo that there's a difference between "X is closer to socialism than Y" and "X is socialist".

Implementations of philosophical paradigms are gray. Those paradigms themselves are not.

For example, economic redistribution is a socialistic concept. It's not closer to socialism then not doing it. It IS socialistic.

Now, how that implemented is gray area, so for example our tax system is more socialistic then a flat tax.

That's an example of "X is socialistic", and "X is more socialistic then Y".



Well then you would say that everyone who [edit: has ever supported the] United States government [since the creation of the income tax] is a socialist or pro-socialism?



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TheRealMafoo said:
Final-Fan said:
Government gets 90% of every dollar spent? I call bullshit.
I earn a dollar. 33% of it is taken right off the bat by the fed. I then lose  6% from the state. 39c gone.

Then I spend it, and of the 61c left, 3.7 is taken in sales tax. 42.7c gone.

Then all the profit earned from the sale of whatever is sold to me is taxed at roughly 45% (what's not profit is because he spent it on something, and that's then taxed at 45% from whomever he bought the item from).

If profit was 100% (not likely), that's 25.8c. 68.5c gone at a max, probably more like 60c gone.

So, of that 40c left per dollar I earn, I have to pay all the rest of the taxes we pay. I pay more tax when I pay:
  • Property tax
  • Boat tax
  • Major tax when I stay in a hotel or fly
  • Auto tax
  • Major tax on gas
  • Spend money on highly taxed items like Alchahol.
  • And the dozens of other items additional tax is collected on.

I read somewhere that the amount of every dollar spent that goes to the government, is around 90c

Even without arguing with any of the percentages (and I do not concede they're accurate), I still call bullshit.  For one thing, I don't think you're getting another 30% out of the remaining taxes even if you're a chain-smoking alcoholic.  

Look at it in reverse:  You're saying that TEN PERCENT of your money goes to places other than the government.  If a man makes $50k a year, think of all the stuff he buys:  gas, food, video games, etc. etc.  This guy's an idiot so he doesn't save a penny.  Do you REALLY think that all the stuff he bought only amounted to $5k worth and greedy Uncle Sam took the rest? 

[edit:  Also, if my math is right you are assuming an overall average of 67% profit for the businesses you purchase from.  This seems extremely high to me, although I have little knowledge about this sort of thing; are you sure that is a reasonable figure? and if so, please explain.] 



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