The question in the headline should be explained: we're not asking which console is "better" and it has nothing to do with sales. The question is designed for avid gamers and asks that if you consider every facet of a video game console purchase, would more hardcore gamers out there choose the PS3 over the 360 at this particular point in time? When the PS3 first launched, no real gamer immediately went out and paid $600 for what the console offered that day. I'm not saying gamers who bought it on launch day made a bad decision, but their thought process would've been very different in 2006 than it would be now, in early 2009.

Then, I know people who bought the PS3 thinking, "this is going to give me my RPG fix." Now, as a big RPG fan, I find myself continually turning to the 360 for that. Then, I really had no intention of going online at all with the PS3; if I was going to do that, it would be with the superior Live service. Now, I actually prefer the content on the PSN, and over the past few years, the free Network has made great strides. Then, the FPS and shooter fans all talked about Halo 3 and the impending Gears of War; now, Killzone 2 owns the headlines.

There's no doubt that things have changed significantly, so it'll be interesting to hear what people have to say. We have no choice but to view both systems in very different lights, if we're being honest with ourselves...and we have to be just that when considering a console purchase. Consumers have to think of it all. Then, Blu-Ray was a neat little novelty, but it was hardly a selling point. Then, Uncharted was an unknown name and Final Fantasy XIII was still a PS3 exclusive. Some things haven't really changed (the 360's reliability is still sh** and the PS3 is still too expensive), but a lot really has, so the question remains: taking it all in, would the real gamers out there choose the PS3 over the 360 at this current point in time? If you didn't then, would you now? Or perhaps your viewpoint hasn't altered...?

I believe the last major hurdle for Sony lies in the price, but beyond that, the PS3 appears to be in excellent position. I would never have said the same thing in late 2006 or early 2007. Who did? There has been such a major change in circumstances; I think it's important to ask this question again.

http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/4722.html

Although I disagree with this article some interesting points are raised, for example how Killzone 2 has changed the perception of the ps3 and more gamers are choosing the console due to its graphics. Personally both the ps3 and xbox 360 is the home for true hardcore gamers, if we look at sales than we can determine that the consumer is siding with the Xbox 360 as noted in the article price is a huge factor to consider.

It seems that with the recent release of Killzone 2, gamers perception and expection have changed, at the end of the day if youre lucky enough to own either console youre set for life both have the best libraries and savage third party support, and ever improving online services.

I want to ask has Killzone 2 changed the perception of Gamers, and are they now siding with the ps3 due to its graphics capabilities?

PLease discuss, By Micheal Moore

This part of the introductory question got me:

The question in the headline should be explained: we're not asking which console is "better" and it has nothing to do with sales. The question is designed for avid gamers and asks that if you consider every facet of a video game console purchase, would more hardcore gamers out there choose the PS3 over the 360 at this particular point in time?

Basically, it sounds like there are those are now trying to argue that PS3 owners are the only true gamers.  Talk about moving goal posts. Plus, if I recall correctly, the amont of play time seen for the PS3 trailed both the Xbox 360 and Wii according to A.C. Neilson (in the USA). So I really don't know what metric "PSXextreme" wants to use -- except their own opinion.

No....more people are likely to pick up the ps3 than before but I still think the 360 has more "players".

"it has nothing to do with sales"

wat.

If hardcore gamers only care about graphics then PS3's reign as the best hardcore platform will be short-lived as the Nextbox will be released within the next 2 years and will have a substantial graphical improvment over PS3, as well as a huge lead over the release date of PS4 if you believe Sony when they said PS3 will have a 10 year life span.

Hint: there are other countries in the world too :)

A little early to be saying that, dont you think? The game's been out less than a week, and as far as "changing" the game community's opinion, 725k first week (or even first day for that matter) sales isn't really THAT big. When the "gamer" community would seem to number in the 10's of millions, what 2 or 3% of them do doesnt necessarily reflect on the whole group. And I would hardly call the HW numbes a sign that gamers are flocking to the PS3. It barely beat the 360 this week. I smell a stinking hyperbole.

Do more VGChartz Members want you to stop making 10 different threads on the first day you joined? Seriously... are you a duplicate or someone that was banned and you are trying to make up some ground quickly? Please try to keep the number of threads you create to a lower number, and preferably original topics would be good.

Just look at the PS3 market share, the 360 is in front.

Hmm I know that KZ2 is good but there are so many shooters on the 360 that are equally as fun and draw in far greater number of online players than KZ2. While the PS3 has made great strides in 2008 the HW sales speak for them selves. The only way the PS3 might bring in more hardcore gamers is with a lower pricepoint.

Even though i respect your opinion that PSN is better than live is just that an OPINION and not everyone feels the same way.