Hmm, I don't know what to think. It's Rol, so I expected a joke thread. But since I don't see a Kim Possible avatar, I guess I can trust the opening post, and take it as a real topic.

I think that you stated you're piece quite eloquently Rol, and I happen to agree with you.

It doesn't make sense to use No More Heroes as an example.

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/29950/Rising-Star-enjoys-Wii-chart-success

They were happy with NMH western sales.

@ nordlead )

yes, I understood the intention of your post, but how are these nintendo teams the "developer equivalent of a 5 year old beating you in a sport/game" ?

That's more or less what i meant. The Wii is a good example of such, nobody knew they wanted it, but it was clearly made with the consumer in mind.

Tell me why making games that the developers want to make with the best graphics and technology available is a bad thing instead of making games that they don't want to make on worse technology just so they can make them more cheaply? That's what a publisher wants to do.

Maybe you should look at the soul-less development companies that churn out crap like the Imagine series that are clearly entirely based on profit rather than any artistic value and pride the developers can get out of their work.

Look at Killzone 2 and imagine the incredible amount of pride and satisfaction Guerilla gets from people saying how amazing it looks. Then imagine the pride that people who work on the Wii receive: it looks good, for a Wii game (read: bad on any other current console).

Note: making more money is not a given anyway seeing as half of the so-called hardcore projects on the Wii have bombed.

it is how they feel. So they think they are all that, and nintendo are the 5 year olds. But they get beat anyways.

my post feels extra lame now that I've had to explain it

I see a few posters already gave me many case in points. What major third party game bombed on Wii?

Hell remember when everyone was calling W@W a bomb on Wii? now its damn near platinum, and that was a gimped port.

Poor 3rd party devs that actually worked on the Wii: you're all lazy, talentless, second stringers who don't deserve to work on the Wii. Never mind that you've never encountered a beast like the Wii in the past.

'Chu talking 'bout, Willis? Of course they've encountered a system just like the Wii before; it's called the Gamecube, remember?

Oh wait, we're talking about third-parties, huh?

Never mind, they've never encountered anything like the Wii before.

I honestly have no idea what your post is trying to say.

Sure they have, the Wii is just two gamecubes duct taped together.