@ Darc Requiem

if its beating the number 2 system on the market on a weekly basis what does that mean for the number 2 system??

the different is that 360 had no competition for its first year, and its got a huge lead right now.

so what does that have to do with the fact that they are selling even???  and let me get this straight... because one company prefers the 360 over ps3 as there lead console that means you can give the 360 a pass on the fact that a console that was 200 dollars more at one point is going toe to toe with it...... and the 360 was out a year ahead so of course companies will choose it right now instead of ps3

 You mean the three games that have been getting pushed back farther and farther, stuff announced years ago at E3?

Saying "It's coming... eventually!" isn't going to help Sony any. 

URNotE: The PS3 had a $100 price cut.  Until then the 360 was soundly beating the PS3.  Now the 360 gets a price cut and the two are much more toe-to-toe.  We'll see what the holidays bring.  The PS3 lineup is thinning.  Can it actually keep up? 

since you wanna talk about companies choosing sides.. what do you think companies are gonna do about japan.. when it comes to ps3 vs. 360.. microsoft has thrown some of its best punches still to no avail.. when it concerns high end powered games you think they are gonna choose the 360 to try to persuade the japanese gamer no eventually they are gonna go the ps3 route fully games like hot shots golf shows that one good game can boost sales.. and theres only been 2 so called aaa games to come out overseas.. companies are not gonna ignore that fact..

 Sorry, but Japan is not the World Standard. LD was quite big in Japan, a very small market in the US and nearly non existent in Europe. Atleast in Europe these changes will affect the customers.as long as there is not one standard HD discs won't be able to get a significant share of the mass market.

 Considering the games:I think the market will be much more cost driven, than performance driven, compared to the PS-2. This would mean that the cross plattform capabilities play a much bigger role and this would not play in favor for the PS-3.

like i told bonafide earlier everyone thinks just because the ps3 was launched a year later than the 360 and the wii is outselling it crazy right now and not to mention the fact that its not holding up to the history of the ps2 that its an utter failure.. everyone isnt judging their statements off numbers.. when i look at the numbers i see ps3=360.. that right there says alot.. i just think everyone is used to the ps3 is the highest price sony is arrogant and their fanboys are stupid.. i think everyone is used to that convo and just dismisses the system without merrit..

The Wii is far outperforming its predecessor.
The 360 is performing as well as its predecessor, if not better.

Can the PS3 make that claim?

That is why the PS3 is failing right now. Plain and simple.

Why do some posters feel it is rational, and altogether plausible that the PS3 will not only come back into the race, but has some chance of overtaking the other two competitors either one or both? This seems like a bold claim with no relevant information that indicates that it can happen. Frankly if you are going to make such statements you should have the decency to have some explanation of how this can be accomplished. Having the reason be logical and within the realm of reality would be a serious plus for the reader.

The trends are pretty clear as to the health of the consoles, and successes and failures are cumulative. The piss poor PS3 sales this year are going to hurt their library for the next three years. A bad year of sales is going to scare consumers. Late adopters are not risk takers. They side with winners. The public impression will become a negative one. Where last years hype becomes a joke, and the vultures look to feed.

Cumulative means each bad thing adds up in the whole to make the situation worse over time. Sony might have moved forward with sales, but the public impression has actually gone in reverse. Developers have an equal understanding. There is more money to be made on the other two consoles, and they are reasonably correct. Microsoft has a decent install base, and Nintendo is boasting increadible sales.

Everything points to the trend being maintained and in fact the margins increasing rather then decreasing. That means Sony is going to be left farther and farther behind. Both their competitors have strong short term plans which will probably aggravate the situation. Like pooring salt into a open wound.

Every reason provided is nonsense. Siteing a price drop changes nothing the other two companies can do this. The only difference is with every drop they get closer to a much larger mass market. That favors Microsoft and Nintendo. The only one that loses in a price war is Sony. Microsoft and Nintendo might even be proactive in this area dropping their prices before Sony.

When you say a certain game is going to jack up sales a reasonable question is who has more sales jacking games. Now the company with the least number of these games will obviously get the smaller boost. Ignoring that look at consoles that got their fantastic games too late in their life cycles the generated sales are insignifigant. The earlier a fantastic game arrives the better. The later it arrives the worse. So the company that puts out more great sales increasing games first is the company the reeps most of the rewards.

When you invoke a radical situational shift you must justify it with some rational explanation. Calling on the power of a game like an avenging angel, or telling yourself that everyone wants it is quite silly. When you yourself cannot make a argument why it is better for the designed purpose playing games. You also cannot say eventually it will happen that it will be better. This is a race and the longer you screw around the harder it is to win, but more damning the harder it is to get people to bet on you. Consumer confidence is critical and the PS3 is not creating any thats why people say it is selling poorly.

Has the console sold poorly? Yes it has sold poorly not only has it not met expectations, but more specifically it has not hit specific sales by certain times. This is a very critical time when Sony needs to make a compelling case to developers and the public. Frankly they have done a awful job at that. Sony has lost quite a lot already. Right now I think they need to gear themselves towards cutting their losses, and I think most analysts would bet the same.

Those playing on the Wii or the Xbox are very likely to get a complete generation experience. Both have a strong install base to work with. Both have strong first party development. Both should have positive trends before the end of the year. Both make compelling arguments to developers. Those with a PS3 however if the sales do not show a marked improvement could start missing out on a lot of third party support, and could end up with marginal exclusive content. I think many PS3 owners are concerned by this and rightly so. Nobody wants to see a console they purchased do this poorly.

The PS3 has done poorly in that it has not made the sale that it had to make. This console is late in the market compared to the Xbox and the Wii launched at the same time and is looking to have four times the sales by the end of the year. The developmest costs for the other two parties are cheaper, and they have more customers. This effectively strangles the console. Thats why time is so critical and why posters should ignore it. Sony needs to make a serious move before the end of the year or your looking at a console that will be a third place player this generation if it can stay in the game that is.