| Onyxmeth said:
If Nintendo were to redo some sort of Duck Hunt, it probably wouldn't resemble a modern day lightgun shooter at all, and would probably have more in common with skeet shooting. |
All I ask for is the ability to shoot the dog.
| Onyxmeth said:
If Nintendo were to redo some sort of Duck Hunt, it probably wouldn't resemble a modern day lightgun shooter at all, and would probably have more in common with skeet shooting. |
All I ask for is the ability to shoot the dog.
Words Of Wisdom said:
All I ask for is the ability to shoot the dog. |
At the very least I ask that he bring me my fucking ducks already that I shot down. Isn't that why I brought him on the trip in the first place?
Onyxmeth said:
So let me get this straight. If Dead Space Extraction was going to be a third person shooter, you were automatically going to label it "awesome" without knowing anything about it, because obviously a third person action/horror port could never get fucked up royally on the Wii (Dead Rising: Chop till you Drop is about to say hello most likely), but now that it's a rail-shooter, it's automatically bargain bin? Let me educate you. The Wii has had two original light gun shooters that weren't merely years old arcade ports. They are Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles and House of the Dead Overkill. Both of them sell for $46.99 on sale at Amazon, making their retail price $49.99. Full price! RE: UC came out in the fall of 2007 and is still full price, however that TPS RE4 is closing in on the bargain bins because it's retail price has dropped $10 to $19.99.
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-Wii has a serious shortage of TPS games
-Any game can get screwed royaly
-I'm actually more interested in Dead Rising than Dead Space now, both are crap but at least Dead Rising doesn't play itself
-A rail shooter isn't worth $50... maybe $20 at most
-RE:4 is a last gen port that kicked UC's butt in the sales department, this also brings up the fact that everyone was mad that UC was on rails and not TPS too.
-RE:UC isn't even on Best Buy's web site any more.... yeah very successful. Oh yeah RE:4 is still there, $20 but the game is 5 years old.
I wonder if RE:UC is not listed on Best Buy because new copies are all but impossible to find.
If you look on Amazon, there are places wanting as much as $75 for it new.
People need to learn that if they don't like a game, don't buy it. That will demonstrate their preferences to companies.
But until we know more about this game, any commentary is pure uneducated speculation.
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| mike_intellivision said: I wonder if RE:UC is not listed on Best Buy because new copies are all but impossible to find. If you look on Amazon, there are places wanting as much as $75 for it new. People need to learn that if they don't like a game, don't buy it. That will demonstrate their preferences to companies. But until we know more about this game, any commentary is pure uneducated speculation. Mike from Morgantown |
It's a disc not a cartridge, it's not that hard to keep up with the demad of a game that is over a year old (MK and Wii Fit have excuses cause of periferals). I looked on numerous other web sites and less than half of them have RE:UC while the majority still had RE:4.
Just because it's listed at $75 doesn't mean that anyone is buying it, it could be bundled with something too if is costs that much.
I don't consider my or any other sceptic's opinions uneducated at this time because the gameplay and interface is a VERY big part of the game.
SnowFlow said:
-Wii has a serious shortage of TPS games -Any game can get screwed royaly -I'm actually more interested in Dead Rising than Dead Space now, both are crap but at least Dead Rising doesn't play itself -A rail shooter isn't worth $50... maybe $20 at most -RE:4 is a last gen port that kicked UC's butt in the sales department, this also brings up the fact that everyone was mad that UC was on rails and not TPS too. -RE:UC isn't even on Best Buy's web site any more.... yeah very successful. Oh yeah RE:4 is still there, $20 but the game is 5 years old.
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1. The Wii doesn't have a serious shortage of TPS games in comparison to on-rail shooters. Let me educate you.
TPS on Wii: Iron Man, Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition, Scarface: The World is Yours, Godfather: Blackhand Edition, Driver: Parallel Lines, Transformers: The Game, Escape From Bug Island, Alone in the Dark, Destroy All Humans: Big Willy Unleashed, Lara Croft Tomb Raider Anniversary, Tomb Raider Underworld and Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Double Agent.
Total=12
Light gun shooters on Wii: House of the Dead Overkill, House of the Dead 2 & 3 Return, Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles, Target: Terror and Ghost Squad.
Total=5
Hmmm...seems to me there's a bigger shortage on light gun games than TPS games. Try again.
2. A rail shooter not being worth $50 to you doesn't make it "bargain bin". A game in the bargain bin is a heavily discounted game, usually $19.99 or less. RE: UC and House of the Dead Overkill do not qualify, they are the closest comparisons to what Dead Space Extraction will be, thus you have no basis to call it a bargain bin game.
3. I wouldn't call RE4's 1.64 million over RE: UC's 1.24 million exactly "kicking butt". They both did pretty damn well and show there is a large audience for both genres when done right. You have proven nothing here.
4. I don't know what basis Best Buy has in the scheme of things. I've already proven RE: UC is still being sold, and still being sold at full price, and has done very well commercially, so what is your point? Go check Amazon yourself if you don't believe me. Just because a website with a smaller stock doesn't carry it doesn't mean it isn't being sold. I went to the website that matters, and they sell it.
I really don't get what your argument is. If you don't like rail shooters, just say you don't and leave your peace. It's annoying watching you, among others attempt to speak for the rest of us and what our tastes are. Some of us really like light gun shooters and are welcoming of their comeback on the Wii. If you don't like them then just don't buy them, and wait for a TPS to come along that interests you. If you don't get any you like and the 12 I mentioned don't interest you, then save your money and buy a console that has them down the line. Calling this game you know nothing about "bargain bin" is childish, considering the trailer that was presented was of high quality and it's based on a high quality IP made by the original team. There is no logical reason to believe this will be of poor quality unless you thought Dead Space was crap to begin with, which would make me wonder why you care in the first place.
| Onyxmeth said: The Odyssey had a light gun also before that I believe. Those I suppose would be like the grandfathers of the genre, but they lack the movement and danger of the light gun games of today, so they don't entirely appeal to the same crowd. I was just giving the earliest of light gun games that show the same traits as what Dead Rising Extraction is. If Nintendo were to redo some sort of Duck Hunt, it probably wouldn't resemble a modern day lightgun shooter at all, and would probably have more in common with skeet shooting. The first lightgun shooter that actually is like the lightgun shooters of today is Mad Dog McCree (1990) in the arcades. I can't find any info on anything prior to that.
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Link's Crossbow Training is by far the best selling modern light gun game and much of it is similar to much of Duck Hunt. The Wii Play shooting game is the same way.
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Onyxmeth said:
1. The Wii doesn't have a serious shortage of TPS games in comparison to on-rail shooters. Let me educate you. TPS on Wii: Iron Man, Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition, Scarface: The World is Yours, Godfather: Blackhand Edition, Driver: Parallel Lines, Transformers: The Game, Escape From Bug Island, Alone in the Dark, Destroy All Humans: Big Willy Unleashed, Lara Croft Tomb Raider Anniversary, Tomb Raider Underworld and Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Double Agent. Total=12 Light gun shooters on Wii: House of the Dead Overkill, House of the Dead 2 & 3 Return, Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles, Target: Terror and Ghost Squad. Total=5 Hmmm...seems to me there's a bigger shortage on light gun games than TPS games. Try again. 2. A rail shooter not being worth $50 to you doesn't make it "bargain bin". A game in the bargain bin is a heavily discounted game, usually $19.99 or less. RE: UC and House of the Dead Overkill do not qualify, they are the closest comparisons to what Dead Space Extraction will be, thus you have no basis to call it a bargain bin game. 3. I wouldn't call RE4's 1.64 million over RE: UC's 1.24 million exactly "kicking butt". They both did pretty damn well and show there is a large audience for both genres when done right. You have proven nothing here. 4. I don't know what basis Best Buy has in the scheme of things. I've already proven RE: UC is still being sold, and still being sold at full price, and has done very well commercially, so what is your point? Go check Amazon yourself if you don't believe me. Just because a website with a smaller stock doesn't carry it doesn't mean it isn't being sold. I went to the website that matters, and they sell it. I really don't get what your argument is. If you don't like rail shooters, just say you don't and leave your peace. It's annoying watching you, among others attempt to speak for the rest of us and what our tastes are. Some of us really like light gun shooters and are welcoming of their comeback on the Wii. If you don't like them then just don't buy them, and wait for a TPS to come along that interests you. If you don't get any you like and the 12 I mentioned don't interest you, then save your money and buy a console that has them down the line. Calling this game you know nothing about "bargain bin" is childish, considering the trailer that was presented was of high quality and it's based on a high quality IP made by the original team. There is no logical reason to believe this will be of poor quality unless you thought Dead Space was crap to begin with, which would make me wonder why you care in the first place.
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1) Let me refrase that "appealing" TPS games. RE:4, Godfather, Tom Clacy... 3 Rail shooters have less appeal as many others posts have stated so I leave it at that. Doesn't mean that they're bad games but in no way are they a good constalation prize for a TPS game.
2) Sorry I just can't justify spending $50 on what is basically an arcade shooter. (ok my opinion I'll give you that)
3) RE:4 is an old port , the fact that it did that well on Wii speaks for itself. 400,000 copies is a fairly big margin.
4) Amazon sells everything, that proves nothing.
I'm not trying to be anoying, I'm only debunking poor arguments and excuses for poor efforts.
To ME it's annoying to see people complacent with such poor efforts from third party devs and publishers.