Are Nintendo still relevant ?

Just to clarify, there are two distinct types of "on-rails shooter".

There is the type that is also refered to as the "light gun shooter", which was born from games like Virtua Cop, Lethal Enforcers, Terminator 2: The Arcade Game and Mad Dog McCree. It involves a predetermined path the game chooses for you and the movement is automatic. You simply concentrate on shooting and reloading.Dead Space Wii will be this type of game.

Then there is the other on-rails shooter. This was born from Space Harrier I believe and was popularized by Star Fox and After Burner. Other notable games are Super Thunder Blade and Panzer Dragoon. Basically you are pushed along a predetermined path, but you can move and shoot anywhere within it. Sin and Punishment 2 will be this type of game.

So no, they aren't really the same thing, but they do have a heavy emphasis on shooting and being led around somewhat by the game, so they are technically part of the same genre.

At the OP, get real. There's nary a developer on the Wii doing a better job than EA. They are approaching different demographics and doing a fine job of delivering games people like to play. Did you forget the early praise their ports of Medal of Honor Heroes 2 and Godfather Blackhand Edition got? Have you forgotten about Boom Blox? How about the efforts made with Madden 09 All Play? The My Sims series has a lot of fans.

EA has never been better in my opinion. I have never really liked the company, but lately they have been producing some quality titles. This includes great yearly updates for the games like nhl 09 and Fifa 09.

yes

remember when people complained that they didnt do new IP? (ignoring awesome stuff like black and freedom fighters)

well then they came back and released stuff like dead space, bloom box and mirrors edge. 3 high quality titles.

then people said they dont do core stuff for wii so they released a new dead space title, and now apparently this isnt good enough either.

i mean its ground up wii game with good presentation, makes use of the wiis features, and is a mature hardcore IP thatll have around 2 years of dev time maybe even a decent budget. who knows its might even get marketed


hopfully we will see the wii continue to get versions of new IP such as brutal legend(rumoured) and Dante's inferno

I did some checking, and apparently it's a bit more complicated than that. Collective nouns can be either singular or plural in British English, depending on the desired emphasis, while they're almost always singular in American English. The Wikipedia page explains this and many other differences pretty well. Learning all the differences can be a pain, but sure beats using the wrong form by accident, and sounding like some uneducated Yank. ^^

Wow Wii fanboys can just get on my nerves when it comes to thinkgs like this. Yea EA has provided Medal of Honor Heroes 2 which is the best controlled FPS on the Wii yet. It provides Tiger woods 09 All Play which is not only the best golf game on the Wii but best controlled probably ever. SSX Blur and Skate it pretty much revolutionized their respective genres at the time. Boom Blox was one of the most creative games of 2008. They've been able to adapt Madden well to the control setup.

I mean seriously I could go on but EA has done nothing but take the strong points of the Wii and exploit them to their fullest to give not only the mainstream but the core gamers great videogames. Sure they've made back ports and whatnot but so has everyone else. But they've always taken it to the next level too. And yet because a bunch of fanboys don't like light gun shooters or expected something else, they are trying to make it seem like everyone hates EA on the Wii.

Get over yourself. You are the issue and no one else. Stop giving me and other real Wii gamers a bad name and falsely giving EA a bad name. It's rude and disrespectful and really I'm tired of hearing it. It's been going on since last year after E3 2008 and it's annoying.

Duck Hunt is a light gun shooter which came out in 1984.  Although, Wikipedia says it was released in 1976, which is news to me - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_Hunt

The Odyssey had a light gun also before that I believe. Those I suppose would be like the grandfathers of the genre, but they lack the movement and danger of the light gun games of today, so they don't entirely appeal to the same crowd. I was just giving the earliest of light gun games that show the same traits as what Dead Rising Extraction is. If Nintendo were to redo some sort of Duck Hunt, it probably wouldn't resemble a modern day lightgun shooter at all, and would probably have more in common with skeet shooting. The first lightgun shooter that actually is like the lightgun shooters of today is Mad Dog McCree (1990) in the arcades. I can't find any info on anything prior to that.

F*ck EA! They had my hopes up that Dead Space would be an awesome TPS on Wii, now it's a bargain bin rail shooter.

So let me get this straight. If Dead Space Extraction was going to be a third person shooter, you were automatically going to label it "awesome" without knowing anything about it, because obviously a third person action/horror port could never get fucked up royally on the Wii (Dead Rising: Chop till you Drop is about to say hello most likely), but now that it's a rail-shooter, it's automatically bargain bin? Let me educate you. The Wii has had two original light gun shooters that weren't merely years old arcade ports. They are Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles and House of the Dead Overkill.  Both of them sell for $46.99 on sale at Amazon, making their retail price $49.99. Full price! RE: UC came out in the fall of 2007 and is still full price, however that TPS RE4 is closing in on the bargain bins because it's retail price has dropped $10 to $19.99.