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This is going to be a big christmas season for the box. Definately it's best selling period yet. I don't think Sony's game lineup (though awesome) has the ability to overpower it this christmas.

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Legend11 said:
Killzone3 said:
http://www.gamernode.com/News/3878-Microsoft-says-it-will-take-PS3-sales-away-at-Christmas/index.html Sorry Cornelius, but even with a big software advantage you cant beat the PS3 and that advantage is quickly coming to an end. I'am betting MR C is wrong, you ?

I'll probably feel really sorry for the PS3 this Christmas because it's obvious that it's going to be completely owned in North America and very likely in the UK as well. As for Japan, Sony is extremely lucky that the 360 isn't a contender there otherwise the gap between the PS3 and the 360 would be growing at an alarming rate.

 Completely owned lol what world do you live in ? PS brand is to strong to get owned by xbox on xmas.  We will see 360 get burned world wide.  The gap will be droping at an alarming rate, 360 best market is where its 3rd in sales aint it.

 

 



I think the ps3 might just sell as well as the 360 in North america, and maybe better elsewhere. Forget my above post. Heavenly sword will move consoles even if it did get a 7.0, because its being compared to god of war. Unreal tournament 3 might force 360 owners to get a ps3. "If it gets a better review than gears of war". Haze not much. But the ps3 does have a great line up of games.

As for the psp, I think it might outsell the ds(the new model in japan seems interesting to see).



 

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Killzone3 said:
Legend11 said:
Killzone3 said:
http://www.gamernode.com/News/3878-Microsoft-says-it-will-take-PS3-sales-away-at-Christmas/index.html Sorry Cornelius, but even with a big software advantage you cant beat the PS3 and that advantage is quickly coming to an end. I'am betting MR C is wrong, you ?

I'll probably feel really sorry for the PS3 this Christmas because it's obvious that it's going to be completely owned in North America and very likely in the UK as well. As for Japan, Sony is extremely lucky that the 360 isn't a contender there otherwise the gap between the PS3 and the 360 would be growing at an alarming rate.

Completely owned lol what world do you live in ? PS brand is to strong to get owned by xbox on xmas. We will see 360 get burned world wide. The gap will be droping at an alarming rate, 360 best market is where its 3rd in sales aint it.

 

 


I'm sorry, but this argument is getting old. If the PS3 thrives so well on brandname, why is it still struggling to keep up?

And I will be absolutely SHOCKED if the PSP outsells the DS, leo.  Only two weeks in this entire generation has the PSP outsold the DS.



PS3: 5.51m/51w, avg 108,039/w (up 239)
360: 12.93m/102w, avg 126,764/w (up 625), leads PS3 by 7.42m (up 70k), avg lead 18,725/w (up 386)
Wii: 13.52m/51w, avg 265,098/w (dn 1,102), leads PS3 by 8.01m (up 90k), avg lead 157,059/w (dn 1,341)

If 360 sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass 360 by...
01/08: (008w) +875.8%, 04/08: (021w) +344.4%, 07/08: (034w) +219.3%, 10/08: (047w) +163.5%
01/09: (060w) +131.8%, 04/09: (073w) +111.4%, 07/09: (085w) +098.1%, 10/09: (099w) +086.7%
If Wii sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass Wii by...
01/08: (008w) +1072.%, 04/08: (021w) +498.4%, 07/08: (034w) +363.4%, 10/08: (047w) +303.1%
01/09: (060w) +269.0%, 04/09: (073w) +246.9%, 07/09: (085w) +232.6%, 10/09: (099w) +220.3%
If PS2 sales freeze, Wii sales increases needed to pass PS2 (as of Mar07, 108.4m) by...
2008: (008w) +4373.8%, 2009: (060w) +0496.5%, 2010: (112w) +0219.6%, 2011: (165w) +0116.9%
2012: (217w) +0064.9%, 2013: (269w) +0033.1%, 2014: (321w) +0011.5%, 2015: (376w) -0004.8%
At +0% it will pass it in 358w, the week ending September 19th, 2014, at an age of 409w (7y44w).
Current age of PS2: 7y37w.

Last update: Week ending November 3, 2007

leo-j said:
I think the ps3 might just sell as well as the 360 in North america, and maybe better elsewhere. Forget my above post. Heavenly sword will move consoles even if it did get a 7.0, because its being compared to god of war. Unreal tournament 3 might force 360 owners to get a ps3. "If it gets a better review than gears of war". Haze not much. But the ps3 does have a great line up of games.

As for the psp, I think it might outsell the ds(the new model in japan seems interesting to see).

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Unreal is coming to xbox as well, yes at a latter date, but why would that force any of them to get a ps3?

mistake 2 Haze is also for 360....

so the only thing you have up there is HS, so it has a decent line up of games, but it really doesnt compare to 360 or wii

lastly seriously what are the chances of psp outselling ds........



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starcraft said:
ssj12 said:
leo-j said:
Unless heavenly sword or some other game becomes a must get it might still sales.

we all realized that amazon sucks as an indicator but Warhawk is in the top 100 (last checked 1 am EST last night), Uncharted is hyped to hell, R&C will move some consoles, Eye of Judgment will move some console mainly in Japan though. Umm.. Folklore will be a big hit as there hasn't been any good next gen RPGs yet in Europe or the US.

 

 


Oblivion? Two worlds? Since you want to compare RPG line-ups for 2007, the 360 has blue dragon, eternal sonata, lost odyssey and mass effect as well. Now which RPG line-up do you think will "take away" the most sales?


I try not to count games that are on PC/Multiplatform as really console moving, Oblivion is a good game but sold better on PC then 360 + PS3 combined.

Also there is the word YET there, is mass effect even out? Eternal Sonata might sell in Japan but idk about the US and Europe, and Lost Odyssey is made by mystwalker isnt it? if so and its as bad as Blue Dragon (sorry but DQ/FF/Golden Sun/Paper Mario and the other RPGs are 100% better) I dont see it doing much for the 360.

Has any of those 360 exclusive RPGs been released in the US/Europe yet? dont think so. If Blue Dragon's effect in Japan is anything to show, it will sell maybe 1 million copies but mostly to people who already own 360s and barely expand it's overall console sales (Halo 3 will be the reason for 360 sales tripling).

And.. whats Two Worlds? I never heard of it.. is it being released on the PC, i might look into it if it is.

 

Kane's Quote:

"Unreal is coming to xbox as well, yes at a latter date, but why would that force any of them to get a ps3?

mistake 2 Haze is also for 360....

so the only thing you have up there is HS, so it has a decent line up of games, but it really doesnt compare to 360 or wii

lastly seriously what are the chances of psp outselling ds........"

 

The reason why I see the PS3 version of UT3 selling more then the 360 version is because it supports M&K. Of course PS3 + 360 version wont equal UT3 PC.  

 



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WiteoutKing said:
Killzone3 said:
Legend11 said:
Killzone3 said:
http://www.gamernode.com/News/3878-Microsoft-says-it-will-take-PS3-sales-away-at-Christmas/index.html Sorry Cornelius, but even with a big software advantage you cant beat the PS3 and that advantage is quickly coming to an end. I'am betting MR C is wrong, you ?

I'll probably feel really sorry for the PS3 this Christmas because it's obvious that it's going to be completely owned in North America and very likely in the UK as well. As for Japan, Sony is extremely lucky that the 360 isn't a contender there otherwise the gap between the PS3 and the 360 would be growing at an alarming rate.

Completely owned lol what world do you live in ? PS brand is to strong to get owned by xbox on xmas. We will see 360 get burned world wide. The gap will be droping at an alarming rate, 360 best market is where its 3rd in sales aint it.

 

 


I'm sorry, but this argument is getting old. If the PS3 thrives so well on brandname, why is it still struggling to keep up?

 

 

Do you fail to see its in a software drought and damn near twice the price of the competition, price means little on xmas.

 

 



ssj12 said:
starcraft said:
ssj12 said:
leo-j said:
Unless heavenly sword or some other game becomes a must get it might still sales.

we all realized that amazon sucks as an indicator but Warhawk is in the top 100 (last checked 1 am EST last night), Uncharted is hyped to hell, R&C will move some consoles, Eye of Judgment will move some console mainly in Japan though. Umm.. Folklore will be a big hit as there hasn't been any good next gen RPGs yet in Europe or the US.

 

 


Oblivion? Two worlds? Since you want to compare RPG line-ups for 2007, the 360 has blue dragon, eternal sonata, lost odyssey and mass effect as well. Now which RPG line-up do you think will "take away" the most sales?


 I try not to count games that are on PC/Multiplatform as really console moving, Oblivion is a good game but sold better on PC then 360 + PS3 combined.

Also there is the word YET there, is mass effect even out? Eternal Sonata might sell in Japan but idk about the US and Europe, and Lost Odyssey is made by mystwalker isnt it? if so and its as bad as Blue Dragon (sorry but DQ/FF/Golden Sun/Paper Mario and the other RPGs are 100% better) I dont see it doing much for the 360. 

Has any of those 360 exclusive RPGs been released in the US/Europe yet? dont think so. If Blue Dragon's effect in Japan is anything to show, it will sell maybe 1 million copies but mostly to people who already own 360s and barely expand it's overall console sales (Halo 3 will be the reason for 360 sales tripling).

And.. whats Two Worlds? I never heard of it.. is it being released on the PC, i might look into it if it is.


you need to do some research before you start talking. Mistwalker is made up of 10 people thats it, its mostly just sakaguchi and uematsu (however you spell that) all they did for blue dragon was 1 music, and many didnt like that cause it was ment for japan. So all they did was watch it and make suggestions, it was made by ARTOON, the same people who made vampire rain (sigh) that gives you an idea on why its not that great.

Eternal sonota has gotten numerous awards here in the Us for  best looking rpg (see game trailers) and game informer just gave it a 8.25 and blue dragon a 9, alot better scores then alot of those rpgs you just listed. Its a matter of opinion and you need to stop making general statements and say its your opinion. Blue dragon also did quite a bit for the 360 it sold almost 200k copies thats almost a 50% attachment rate and that is HUGE so it sold quite well in japan and eternal sonota is almost hitting the 1k mark which is 25% which again is HUGE and it has not been out as long as blue dragon.

Also lost odyssey is again overwatched by mistwalker, but if you go into interviews sakaguchi states that this is the title he has been putting full power into, not blue dragon. Also lost odyssey is made by FEEL plus, a group that microsoft made just to help make this game with over 100 staff, and 20+ being former square employees. This game is supposed to be much better then blue dragon because its got much MUCH better of a storyline and is more based more realistic graphics and just looks like its going to plain out rock. Im not saying it will def be fantastic, but your stating that you know its going to suck, sorry, but why would microsoft create this group JUST FOR THIS GAME to have it suck (yes they are only working on this game).



                 With regard to Call of Duty 4 having an ultra short single player campaign, I guess it may well have been due to the size limitations of DVD on the XBox 360, one of various limitations multi-platform game designers will have to take into consideration-Mike B   

Proud supporter of all 3 console companys

Proud owner of 360wii and DS/psp              

Game trailers-Halo 3 only dissapointed the people who wanted to be dissapointed.

Bet with Harvey Birdman that Lost Odyssey will sell more then Blue dragon did.

THe PS3, though pretty, has nothing this holiday season, no MGS4, no GTA4, there are no HUGE names for PS3, thats the facts.



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Killzone3 said:
WiteoutKing said:

I'm sorry, but this argument is getting old. If the PS3 thrives so well on brandname, why is it still struggling to keep up?

 

Do you fail to see its in a software drought and damn near twice the price of the competition, price means little on xmas.

 

 


 Sorry Killzone, as someone who thinks the PS3 is far from doomed I have to disagree with you here.  Its not that price doesn't mean anything at X-mas, its that it means less.  And I can't help but wonder how many people are really going to spend $500 on a console when for so many people that is all or most of their X-mas spending money. I think the big reason price means less at X-mas has to do with the messed up mentality that expensive gifts mean you care more. So if getting little Timmy a PS3 means someone else doesn't get a gift at all that could be a problem. But aside fromt hat I just don't see people going out in droves and dropping that kind of cash for a console, mainstream still percieves all consoles as toys, and when they probably have quite a few other people to shop for it will be hard to justify that kind of expenditure on what they percieve as a toy.

This is why we will probably see a poor performance of the Elite, mediocre performance for the premium, and most of the sales for the 360 will go to the "Core".   

 



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